i love the middle east

[TteFAboB]

Ahmadinejad has said that the mission of the Islamic revolution is to pave the way for the 12th Imam. While he's very convincing as are all lunatics and seem to be absolutely sure he's right as any sociopath is, I'd like to know wether Khamenei shares the same vision or is even behind him or not.

If the 12th Imam was to come then it would indeed make sense to sacrifice Iran in a MAD nuclear trade with Israel. Yes, millions of Iranians would die if Israel could retaliate and especially if it had more warheads than believed but all the dead would fall straight in the good grace of Allah as martyrs.

"The Prophet peace be upon him said: 'The nations shall gather and team up against you (Muslims) as the predators gather and team up against their preys. A questioner asked: 'Is it because of us being low in numbers at that day?' The Prophet replied: 'No, you that day shall be in great numbers, but you will be as powerless as the foam of the water on the surface of the river, and Allah shall remove any fear from your enemies toward you, and He shall put in your hearts a corruption.' A questioner asked: 'O Apostle of Allah, what is the corruption?' The Prophet replied: 'The love of life's amusements and the fear of death.' (Translation of Sunan Abu Dawud, The Book of Fierce Battles - The Gathering of all Nations against Islam)"

All Muslim governments rank high on corruption as do all dictatorships and totalitarian (also Sharia'rite) countries to some extent. There's also the ostentation and lust for materialism. I've never seen a people more fascinated and eager to ostentate wealth than the peoples of the Middle East, especially the Arabs. But that is probably more related to culture:

"Certain of the desert Arabs round about you are hypocrites, as well as (desert Arabs) among the Medina folk: they are obstinate in hypocrisy: thou knowest them not: We know them: twice shall We punish them: and in addition shall they be sent to a grievous penalty. (The Noble Quran, 9:101)"

So you may rightfully argue that these rulers (Prince Exotic-car-collection) are not Muslims themselves but "hypocrites" in the sense of the quote above. Unfortunately, they are contagious by necessity:

"...Kings, when they Enter a country, despoil it, And make the noblest Of its people its meanest (A-izzata ahliha athillatan) Thus do they behave. (The Noble Quran, 27:34)"

Now, it all makes sense after these two quotes:

"Until the Gog and Magog (people) Are let through (their barrier), And they swiftly swarm From every hill. Then will the True Promise Draw nigh (of fulfilment): Then behold! the eyes Of the Unbelievers will Fixedly stare in horror: 'Ah! Woe to us! we were indeed Heedless of this; nay; we Truly did wrong!' (The Noble Quran, 21:96-97)"

"The Prophet said 'The people will continue performing the Hajj and 'Umra to the Ka'ba even after the appearance of Gog and Magog.' Narrated Shu'ba extra: The Hour (Day of Judgment) will not be established till the Hajj (pilgrimage to the Mecca) is abandoned. (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Pilgrimage (Hajj), Volume 2)"

Iran attacks Israel, this sparks a counter attack "from every hill", a global war ensues. Saudi Arabia allies itself with whoever is fighting against Iran and the pilgrimage to Mecca is for some reason interrupted. Then the world either ends or starts over from scratch.

I say this isn't the Apocalypse. It could be. As has been the case for millenia, only time will tell. I would always find the quotes and Hadiths I need to stamp over whatever I would like to prove no matter the case because if you believe the (Muslim) Apocalypse is next door and you base this theory on the observation of reality and truth, the world is such a large place you will always be able to find corruption, war, sin and whatever else you need to attempt to make lies become true by force.

All your treaties and diplomatic non-sense is gibberish compared to the Verb of Allah. Successful nuclear disarmament might even be a sign of the Apocalypse: how does anyone intend to close the gates of hell and stop the legions of demons with petty bullets and war machines alone?

[The Avon Lady]

[QUOTE=TteFAboB]

"The Prophet peace be upon him said: 'The nations shall gather and team up against you (Muslims) as the predators gather and team up against their preys.

"Until the Gog and Magog (people) Are let through (their barrier), And they swiftly swarm From every hill.

Typical Islamic plagiary.

Nothing like the original. Also, see this related article.

[PeriscopeDepth]

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

Typical Islamic plagiary.

Shame on the mods if they let this one go.

PD

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by PeriscopeDepth

Shame on the mods if they let this one go.

Deal with it.

[stabiz]

Oh crap, I just read some of Sea Demons posts again. I need a bath.

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by stabiz

Oh crap, I just read some of Sea Demons posts again. I need a bath.

For best results, do this daily.

Some of you people are so ultra-sensitive.

[dean_acheson]

I don't mind Isreal having Nukes, atleast the country is ran by grown-ups..... as compared to such mature countries with Sharia law...



I don't know any jews who have tried to convert me with commercial jets....

[CCIP]

Originally Posted by TteFAboB

All your treaties and diplomatic non-sense is gibberish compared to the Verb of Allah. Successful nuclear disarmament might even be a sign of the Apocalypse: how does anyone intend to close the gates of hell and stop the legions of demons with petty bullets and war machines alone?

Well I'll be damned if that's not a 'nuke the muslims' post right there. Unless I totally misread something.

[PeriscopeDepth]

I just wonder what would happen if I said typical Jew _______ or typical black ______ and MEANT IT. I bet there'd be a reaction then, and it would certainly be warranted. So why is it not now?

PD

Originally Posted by PeriscopeDepth

I just wonder what would happen if I said typical Jew _______ or typical black ______ and MEANT IT. I bet there'd be a reaction then, and it would certainly be warranted. So why is it not now?

PD

You can call me a typical white man or cracker ______ and MEAN IT whenever you wish. Remember sticks and stones may break my bones but names/words will never hurt me. Its the PC disease which will hurt us in the end.

[PeriscopeDepth]

Originally Posted by waste gate

You can call me a typical white man or cracker ______ and MEAN IT whenever you wish. Remember sticks and stones may break my bones but names/words will never hurt me. Its the PC disease which will hurt us in the end.

My point being (somewhat idealist, I know) is that words/names do eventually lead to sticks and stones. I just don't think it's a good idea for Americans to become comfortable with saying typical _______. That's all I have to say in this thread.

PD

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by PeriscopeDepth

My point being (somewhat idealist, I know) is that words/names do eventually lead to sticks and stones. I just don't think it's a good idea for Americans to become comfortable with saying typical _______. That's all I have to say in this thread.

PD

I think we should be truthful no matter how hard it hurts. Speak the truth, above all. Eradicate all PC nonsense, and call a horse a horse. Call a dog a dog. For those who are as insecure that would resort to throwing sticks and stones, there's something called law enforcement that deals with assault. We need to use more of it.

[CCIP]

Objectivity!

That's right, let's just call religion its rightful name, "opiate for the people". I'd be perfectly happy with that term and noone would be upset. One bunch of delusional idiots ripping another bunch of delusion idiots. Hooray, noone is upset and I'm not going to hell!

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

I think we should be truthful no matter how hard it hurts. Speak the truth, above all. Eradicate all PC nonsense, and call a horse a horse. Call a dog a dog. For those who are as insecure that would resort to throwing sticks and stones, there's something called law enforcement that deals with assault. We need to use more of it.

But now the PC madness has made up something called a 'hate crime'. So now government sanctions thought controll and SCOTUS rules that discrimination used to correct past discrimination is the law. We are lost.

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by PeriscopeDepth

I just wonder what would happen if I said typical Jew _______ or typical black ______ and MEANT IT. I bet there'd be a reaction then, and it would certainly be warranted. So why is it not now?

For what it's worth, though it won't make a difference to you: I was referring to an ideaology, not to a people.