SUBSIM: The Web's #1 resource for all submarine & naval simulations since 1997 |
07-12-19, 09:46 AM | #646 |
Navy Seal
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Banana Republic of Germany
Posts: 6,170
Downloads: 62
Uploads: 0
|
It's hard to believe that Finland was able to stop a full Soviet offensive with the few units it had.
__________________
Putting Germ back into Germany. |
07-12-19, 09:58 AM | #647 | |
Lucky Jack
|
Quote:
That being said, it was close. What kinda irritates me is that in Finland everyone speaks about the 'Miracle of the Winter War', but the defensive victories in Tali-Ihantala, Siiranmäki and Vuosalmi on the Isthmus are often overlooked. Artillery played a huge role, considering how little we had. But the system developed allowed for the FO to give simple corrections (200 left for example) and multiple batteries would do the calculations on their end, and could fire to very small areas with all their guns in a couple of minutes. But, the war is not yet over. |
|
07-14-19, 05:11 AM | #648 |
Lucky Jack
|
Yep part three is yet to come, I take it Dowly the Lapland War will be in a new thread?
Well done mate for your hard work.
__________________
Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT! |
07-14-19, 01:42 PM | #649 | |
Lucky Jack
|
Quote:
*** 13 July 1944 21st Brigade withdraws from Porajärvi in Ladoga Karelia. Finnish daily losses: 306 One of Lagus' StuGs in Vuosalmi. *** 14 July 1944 Flight Regiment 4 begins a four-day operation bombing enemy troop concentrations in Äyräpää area. Marshal Mannerheim visits HQ of the Isthmus Forces and gives his thanks to the troops. Soviet Ambassador Aleksandra Kollontai informs that if Finland is willing to propose peace talks, the Soviet Union is listening. Finnish daily losses: 184 Destroyed KV at Ihantala. |
|
07-15-19, 07:40 AM | #650 |
Lucky Jack
|
Just put it up in bold letter when it starts. Looking at Germany's allies I am of the opinion out of the main allies Finland put up a dam good fight and were not stupid like some of the other allies that were bloody millstone's around Germany's kneck.
__________________
Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT! |
07-15-19, 12:39 PM | #651 |
Lucky Jack
|
Not until September.
*** 15 July 1944 Soviet offensive to break the U-line begins in 5th Division's sector. Major Siitonen's I/IR44 lost it's positions quickly in the beginning of the battle. First the "Maksimoff" line was broken and by noon the "ridgeline" positions of III/IR44 were overrun northwest of Nietjärvi. The enemy continued to advance north towards Maalammenmäki and west to widen the breach. 5th Division artillery played an important role in containing the breach. The division had 11 Artillery Battalions at its disposal along with coastal guns in the area. Various artillery pieces fired a total of 20,000 rounds during the day, more than had been fired at Tali-Ihantala in any given day. Major General Martola's VI AK reinforced the 5th Division with two battalions from 15th Brigade (15.Pr). Major Väänänen's IV/15.Pr was immediately given orders to attack to the shore of Nietjärvi from northeast to prevent the enemy from widening the breakthrough to the east. Captain Kujari's I/15.Pr was to attack against the enemy west of Teirisuo and throw them back. Together with Major Pokkanen's II/IR45, the enemy at Teirisuo was pushed back during the evening and the following night. Finnish daily losses: 299 Soviet POW showcases his body armor. (Syskyjärvi) Last edited by Dowly; 07-17-19 at 05:28 AM. |
07-17-19, 05:34 AM | #652 |
Lucky Jack
|
16 July 1944
The bulge in Nietjärvi area caused by the enemy breakthrough is contained and encircled. During the day and following night, Soviet regiments fight themselves out of the encirclement or are destroyed nearly to the last man. * Soviet bombers sink the German anti-aircraft cruiser Niobe in Kotka harbor thinking it was the Finnish Coastal Ship Väinämöinen. Finnish daily losses: 323 Machine gun position in Suojärvi area. *** 17 July 1944 One of Detachment Vehniäinen's long-range patrols on the Isthmus report that empty trains are heading towards the front. This is the first sign to the Finns that the offensive has stopped. * Fighting starts in the Lemetti-Suojärvi area, as Soviet forces try to breach the U-line there. Finnish daily losses: 346 |
07-17-19, 06:53 AM | #653 |
Lucky Jack
|
__________________
Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT! |
07-18-19, 08:16 AM | #654 |
Lucky Jack
|
18 July 1944
Aunus Group is disbanded and its forces are transferred under VI Army Corps. Fortification works begin on the Isthmus to prepare fall back positions in case of a renewed Soviet offensive. Work on the Salpa-line also continues. Finnish and German planes hit Soviet positions on both sides of River Vuoksi in Äyräpää and Vuosalmi. Finnish daily losses: 134 Colonel Hanste (IR12) at his command post. (Ihantala) U-line trenches at Lemetti. |
07-19-19, 05:56 AM | #655 |
Lucky Jack
|
19 July 1944
Finnish 1st Division's counter-attacks fail in lake Vegarusjärvi area to the north of the U-line. Finnish daily losses: 94 Private Pihlajamaa stands before a drumhead court-martial. He is sentenced to death for deserting three times. (15th Brigade/Nietjärvi) Private Pihlajamaa moments before being executed by a firing squad. |
07-19-19, 08:42 AM | #656 |
Chief of the Boat
|
Three times?
__________________
Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something.
Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim) |
07-19-19, 08:59 AM | #657 |
Lucky Jack
|
Yep. The caption doesn't offer any more details other than he had served a 2,5 year solitary confinement sentence before to this for desertion.
His records, however, have been digitized, so from those I can see he first was sentenced for desertion on 29 October 1941, next was on 3 March 1942. His last desertion was on 9 July 1944 and was sentenced to death ten days later on 19 July He was 28yo and got married during the interim peace, they had one child. |
07-20-19, 09:25 AM | #658 |
Chief of the Boat
|
I guess he was set in his ways then.
__________________
Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something.
Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim) |
07-21-19, 02:12 AM | #659 |
Navy Seal
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Banana Republic of Germany
Posts: 6,170
Downloads: 62
Uploads: 0
|
Depends. The question is if he deserted willingly with the intention to leave his comrades behind or whether he just couldn't take it anymore and snapped in combat (like the engineer in Das Boot). If it's the latter then he's just another victim of the war and not really a criminal in my books.
__________________
Putting Germ back into Germany. |
07-21-19, 05:26 AM | #660 | |
Chief of the Boat
|
Quote:
__________________
Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something.
Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim) |
|
Tags |
continuation war, jatkosota |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|