SUBSIM Radio Room Forums



SUBSIM: The Web's #1 resource for all submarine & naval simulations since 1997

Go Back   SUBSIM Radio Room Forums > General > General Topics
Forget password? Reset here

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-29-14, 09:07 PM   #1
Stealhead
Navy Seal
 
Stealhead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 5,421
Downloads: 85
Uploads: 0
Default

Those things would get blown away by tank or AFV anyway. Its mainly light infantry which is not so easy to wipe via the current methods.
Stealhead is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-14, 10:43 PM   #2
Armistead
Rear Admiral
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: on the Dan
Posts: 10,880
Downloads: 364
Uploads: 0


Default

I really hope IS doesn't take Kobani {thinks that's how it's spelled} in northern Syria. The Kurdish women are doing a lot of the fighting. Seems we're not giving any or much air support due to so called close combat and no eyes on the ground. This could turn into a slaughter if the Kurds can't hold them off. Turkey needs to be kicked out of NATO.
__________________

You see my dog don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

Last edited by Armistead; 09-30-14 at 08:52 AM.
Armistead is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-14, 05:01 AM   #3
Schroeder
Navy Seal
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Banana Republic of Germany
Posts: 6,170
Downloads: 62
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Armistead View Post
I really hope IS doesn't Kobani {thinks that's how it's spelled} in northern Syria. The Kurdish women are doing a lot of the fighting. Seems we're not giving any or much air support due to so called close combat and no eyes on the ground.
This is what I didn't understand from the beginning. If there was this urgency to support the Kurds in their fight then why not flying much more relief attacks on IS troops getting close to Kurdish territory? I mean a week ago they were still some miles away from that city. Instead they bomb oil facilities which will definitely help in the long run (in more than one way, I bet all oil producing nations were cheering that these facilities got taken out as they can now raise prices again because of the "shortage") but won't do much to help the Kurds who are already fighting for their bare lives RIGHT NOW. I think we need some A10s down there.
__________________
Putting Germ back into Germany.
Schroeder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-14, 05:06 AM   #4
Jimbuna
Chief of the Boat
 
Jimbuna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: 250 metres below the surface
Posts: 190,938
Downloads: 63
Uploads: 13


Default

The Kurds are in the forefront of fighting IS and as such should be given maximum support....bloody disgraceful the way the west are treating them but I suspect the Iraqi government have a majority say in where the military assistance goes
__________________
Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something.
Oh my God, not again!!

Jimbuna is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-14, 05:22 AM   #5
Skybird
Soaring
 
Skybird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: the mental asylum named Germany
Posts: 42,716
Downloads: 10
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimbuna View Post
The Kurds are in the forefront of fighting IS and as such should be given maximum support....bloody disgraceful the way the west are treating them but I suspect the Iraqi government have a majority say in where the military assistance goes
That is correct, and since years they make sure that the Kurds do not get weapons that would indeed turn them into a stronger force. Corruption by individuals not even counted.
__________________
If you feel nuts, consult an expert.
Skybird is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-14, 06:41 AM   #6
Catfish
Dipped Squirrel Operative
 
Catfish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky
Posts: 17,802
Downloads: 38
Uploads: 0


Default

Just refusing to sell IS Honda spare parts will probably stop them, finally
Catfish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-14, 06:46 AM   #7
Betonov
Navy Seal
 
Betonov's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Slovenia
Posts: 8,647
Downloads: 26
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Catfish View Post
Just refusing to sell IS Honda spare parts will probably stop them, finally
Unfortunately those are older models that can be fixed with iron water pipes and some steel plates
Betonov is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-14, 01:58 PM   #8
Aktungbby
Gefallen Engel U-666
 
Aktungbby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy
Posts: 30,069
Downloads: 24
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribesman View Post
The problem there is which Kurds?
They are not simply all Kurds, you have good Kurds and bad Kurds, you have friendly Kurds and nasty Kurds. So in reality the arm the Kurds protect the Kurds policies of the past have come full circle and you are now fighting against people you helped set up in the first place.
Indeed! a lesson not lost on Richard the LionHeart...Saladin was a Kurd, born in Tikrit, same as our old buddy Saddam Hussein...nothing changes. Did note the flair and design of the improvised vehicles though- morale seems to be unflagging, considering ISIS doesn't treat prisoners very well...
__________________

"Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!!
Aktungbby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-14, 02:55 PM   #9
Aktungbby
Gefallen Engel U-666
 
Aktungbby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy
Posts: 30,069
Downloads: 24
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aktungbby View Post
...nothing changes.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribesman View Post
Well...my thoughts on the picture August posted were... high, unstable, slow, noisy and vulnerable.
PRECISELY!
__________________

"Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!!
Aktungbby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-14, 03:10 PM   #10
Oberon
Lucky Jack
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 25,976
Downloads: 61
Uploads: 20


Default

I must admit, my thoughts went back a little further than that:

Oberon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-14, 03:17 PM   #11
Armistead
Rear Admiral
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: on the Dan
Posts: 10,880
Downloads: 364
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribesman View Post
The problem there is which Kurds?
:
A bad Kurd compared to IS is like a bad day fishing.....
__________________

You see my dog don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.
Armistead is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-14, 04:16 PM   #12
August
Wayfaring Stranger
 
August's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 23,226
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0


Default

Every human society has it's bad element and the Kurds are no different but they compare pretty favorably to the Sunnis and Shiites.
__________________


Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.
August is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-14, 06:05 PM   #13
Armistead
Rear Admiral
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: on the Dan
Posts: 10,880
Downloads: 364
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribesman View Post
So you missed the whole heritage thing?
You can trace IS back to the Kurds
You really are missing the whole thing, rather like August is with this line.....
Kurds are mainly Sunni with some Shiites thrown in for regional balance.
The Kurdish Salafists who became Ansar in Iraq after their return from Afghanistan then became ISIL which became ISIS which became IS.
Don't care what you trace them back to, but what and where they stand now. I could trace you back to......how far in the evolution process should we go.
__________________

You see my dog don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.
Armistead is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-14, 08:25 PM   #14
Aktungbby
Gefallen Engel U-666
 
Aktungbby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy
Posts: 30,069
Downloads: 24
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Armistead View Post
I could trace you back to......how far in the evolution process should we go.
40,000BC
__________________

"Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!!
Aktungbby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-14, 08:34 PM   #15
Oberon
Lucky Jack
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 25,976
Downloads: 61
Uploads: 20


Default

Baby steps Tribes, we've managed to go from 'all Muslims are evil' to 'Actually, those Muslims are alright'. I'd call that progress...
Oberon is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:15 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1995- 2025 Subsim®
"Subsim" is a registered trademark, all rights reserved.