Keep safe everybody

[fireftr18]

Those in charge know too well what the real outcome will be with a full nuclear exchange. They don't want a war between US and Russia. Something will be done to resolve the issue. The same thing a few months ago when North Korea was saber rattling toward South Korea.

[Eisenwurst]

I'm with you Cybermat. I don't think it will come to ww3, but I am damned scared. My dad was Ukrainian and he lived through a revolution, a famine, and 2 invasions.

The Ukraine is a sovereign state with borders and should be left alone to sort things out. They've only been independent for about 20 years and are prey to all sorts of outside influences, some good some bad. I feel for them.

Mr Putin as a former intelligence officer undoubtedly speaks perfect English, and who knows may even visit this forum. If he does I'd like him to reflect deeply on the story of Croesus and the Delphic Oracle.

You're a good bloke Cybermat and good luck for the future.

[gordonmull]

Nice to see a 14 year old actually taking part in the world. Good on you man. Honestly, I really don't mean that in a patronising way. Too many people your age don't give a stuff.

The thing about wars is that annihilating a people doesn't achieve much. Wars are usually fought over resources. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, just that usually, despite the rhetoric used by politicians to whip the masses up into a suitable level hatred of the people that the politicians are asking them to fight, wars are predominantly about securing profitable territory, or defending it against aggressors. If you've nuked that territory, you can't occupy it. Russia sees an opportunity to win Ukraine back. Why would it nuke the former granary of the USSR? In that situation neither would win.

[krashkart]

Don't let your fears take control of you, Cybermat. The world's been through much worse.

[Red October1984]

Originally Posted by CaptainMattJ.

Russia hasnt done anything yet. Right now its just a bunch of chest puffing.

I read today that they successfully test fired an ICBM...

Originally Posted by krashkart

Don't let your fears take control of you, Cybermat. The world's been through much worse.

This is true. Fear is a liar.

At the same time, it's a good idea to stay informed and prepared in case something DOES happen. I really don't see a WW3 starting...but how many times in fiction has this exact scenario or something very very similar happened?

Yeah that's fiction...but wars have started over things like this.

I don't have much of an opinion yet of what's going on. I'm waiting to see how this plays out over the next month.

[krashkart]

Originally Posted by Red October1984

I don't have much of an opinion yet of what's going on. I'm waiting to see how this plays out over the next month.

I'm not precisely on my seat's edge waiting to see what happens, either.

[Betonov]

I'd be more affraid of the mobs of hyped up sheeple than the actual crisis.
Luckily our nation is hard to get hyped about anything but alcohol.

[Jimbuna]

I reckon the world is quite safe for the moment...but just in case...

Originally Posted by Red October1984

I read today that they successfully test fired an ICBM...

Originally Posted by Red October1984

This is true. Fear is a liar.

You never cease to amaze me...

Anyways, it was most likely not the first time they tested some missile.

@Cybermat
Keep your cool, nothing is going to happen. Neither side could nor would afford a hot conflict, it's all just political arm wrestling to buy time and see how things develop. For what would either side risk the end of the world... the Crimean? Not going to happen...

On the other hand, it is sad to see that cold war never ended. Is anyone naive enough to believe that? We still all play the arms race, threaten each other and "prepare".

I hate mankind. Really.

[Cybermat47]

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

You never cease to amaze me...

What do you mean? That was a pretty good post he made.

Anyhow, thanks for helping me out, guys. It's just a bit jarring the first time you truly realise 'oh crap, somebody could start a nuclear war'.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

What do you mean? That was a pretty good post he made.

Anyhow, thanks for helping me out, guys. It's just a bit jarring the first time you truly realise 'oh crap, somebody could start a nuclear war'.

I think he meant it in the good way. It was a good post indeed.

I know that feeling though, I must admit the first time I was fully aware of it was when Russian forces rolled through Serbia and into Kosovo to set up around Pristina airport, and my spidey sense weren't far off because World War III nearly did happen. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inciden...istina_airport However, as a kid in the 1980s I remained blissfully unaware, being only vaguely aware of the disaster at Chernobyl (I remember seeing news footage of people in Wales pouring milk down the drain and thinking it rather odd) and West and East Germany was a normal thing (I still have a toy around somewhere with 'Made in West Germany' on it), the only time I really noticed the Cold War was when the Berlin wall came down in '89, and whilst I had no idea what it was all about, it was clear through the news coverage and peoples expressions that it was an important thing.

Still, even if anything did kick off, which is unlikely, you're in a pretty safe area, Russia has no beef with Oz, although in the New World Order (TM) post-bomb, you'd probably become a Chinese outpost unless the US takes out China on its way down in which case you'd probably get some buckets from the Chinese, but given the size of Australia it'd probably only be the major cities that get hit, the outlying areas would escape relatively unscatched, and since you're in the Southern hemisphere you wouldn't need to worry so much about the chaos up North which would probably have a few cloudy nights from all the dust and debris kicked up. Australia and South America would probably be the leaders of any relief effort that came across the equator.

It takes a lot to kill off a planet, and an exchange would put us back about 300 years, but it wouldn't kill the human civilization off.

An asteroid on the other hand....

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by Oberon

... Still, even if anything did kick off, which is unlikely, you're in a pretty safe area, Russia has no beef with Oz, although in the New World Order (TM) post-bomb, you'd probably become a Chinese outpost unless the US takes out China on its way down in which case you'd probably get some buckets from the Chinese, but given the size of Australia it'd probably only be the major cities that get hit, the outlying areas would escape relatively unscatched, and since you're in the Southern hemisphere you wouldn't need to worry so much about the chaos up North which would probably have a few cloudy nights from all the dust and debris kicked up. ....

For the first part : A german guy decided to leave Germany, in the late 1930ies, becaus he felt a war in Europe was imminent.
He decided to move to a forlorn and godforsaken isolated island somewhere on the edge of the world, where any war would surely miss him.

He went to the Salomones. The island had the name "Guadalcanal".


Regarding the second part of being safe in the southern part of the world (Australia) after a nuclear war .. :