Is T34 vs Tiger abandonware?

[frinik]

Well I am not surprised. The game does not have a good reputation and press.SF whose´s distribution rights in the West also belonged to Lighthouse seem to have found new outlets with Amazon and Gamersgate selling it online.I wonder if TvsT is not sold online as well????

[frinik]

I checked online and could only find Gamersgate offering it but checking their webpage it says product not found which means they gave it up.Otherwise lots of torrent or free file sharing offering free downloads of Tv sT.I think this game no longer exists for commercial purposes and is just forgotten.

[ZeeWolf]

I just made this thread a sticky, this is a great subject. As for me I have not
abandoned TvT. Although I have found out that the story around this game
is really messy and a bit complex. Allot of, if not all those involved in the
development of TvT feel they have been screwed. Judging from what I've
learned the guys running the show could not hold it together. And I am just
speculating here,with the possibility of the bank roll running out before TvT
was completed. And yes and then just through it out there on the market
as a last ditch effort before abandoning.

ZW

[frinik]

Yeah I think Zee is right.Lighthouse was probably shaky and trying desperately to get games out to shore up their bottom line.That would explain why was TvsT rushed out without the bugs solved

[Kapt. Q]

Your two main questions Murkz:

Does anyone here know who now owns TvT?

If no one owns TvT is it then abandonware?

The first question is the hard one, but the second one should be easier to figure out coz it's a straight legal question, any lawyers in the house?

According to the following link the title must be over 4 years old,

http://www.abandonwarering.com/?Page=FAQ

Wiki has a good article, here's a quote of relevance:

Enforcement of copyright
Old copyrights are usually left undefended. This can be due to intentional non-enforcement by owners due to software age or obsolescence, but sometimes results from a corporate copyright holder going out of business without explicitly transferring ownership, leaving no one aware of the right to defend the copyright.
Even if the copyright is not defended, copying of such software is still unlawful in most jurisdictions when a copyright is still in effect. Abandonware changes hands on the assumption that the resources required to enforce copyrights outweigh benefits a copyright holder might realize from selling software licenses. Additionally, abandonware proponents argue that distributing software for which there is no one to defend the copyright is morally acceptable, even where unsupported by current law. Companies that have gone out of business without transferring their copyrights are an example of this; many hardware and software companies that developed older systems are long since out of business and precise documentation of the copyrights may not be readily available.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abandonware

[Dowly]

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[Sledgehammer427]

excellent point Dowly

I'll PM Neal, make sure everything is kosher.

I dont think theres anything wrong as nobody is posting any links to free downloads or anything of that nature.