T34 vs Tiger- Kursk 1943 coming soon!

[ZeeWolf]

Originally Posted by KapitanDP

ZW,
First, thanks for your efforts I don't know what all the changes were that you made so it's possible that some fixes to problems below were not included in this mod but I have included everything that I have noticed...

Here are my CPU spec's:
Vista 32 bit
Intel Duo Core 2.66 Ghz
2 GB Memory
Nvidia GeForce 8800 GT

Test Mission: Zitadelle Mission 2 - The Gantlet
Video Game Settings: All on Max except Shadows Detail, 1 click from Max

After Easter Mod Results:

1) Checked to see if it would now save my control key settings after leaving and then running program again. It did not.
2) FPS - Basically the same. About 6.6 during the bombardment.
3) Cannot increase Gear setting past G3 from Commander position. Must switch to driver to increase...
4) Tank pulls left or right almost constantly. Difficult to keep tank moving in a straight line (I was in G5 at the time). Terrain??? Or, I thought possibly a Joystick problem so I disconnected the joystick and reloaded, but no change.
5) The change in color of the lower left MFD (tank in a circle) to neon green is difficult to see with green grass terrain underneath. I think I prefer the white/gray color that it was previously. Just my preference.

KDP

Hi KDP,
Is this only in the Kursk missions for you 1-4 issues?
The gear issue definitely sounds like a conflict problem. I must say too
that your Vista 32 in a new area for me I think you are the only one I
have heard from with this OS. Try re-installing TvT and after adding the
ZW Updates try updating (web update) your DirectX. This will give you
a fresh start.
And a note about uninstalling tvt: After doing a Uninstall go to the tvt
folder and delete manually any files and folders below /T34vsTiger

ZW

[KdF]

Ok, Stoopid question.
I finally found my disk and installed a fresh copy of TvsT.
I also have 2 brand new systems both running Win7 (one 32 bit and one 64 bit). Both with SLi and mega memory, so the real question is what do I install to get up to speed? Everything since the beginning or Just last months and this beta????

[ZeeWolf]

Originally Posted by KdF

Ok, Stoopid question.
I finally found my disk and installed a fresh copy of TvsT.
I also have 2 brand new systems both running Win7 (one 32 bit and one 64 bit). Both with SLi and mega memory, so the real question is what do I install to get up to speed? Everything since the beginning or Just last months and this beta????

Hi KdF,
I'll e-mail you the links that you need there is only two; the 2011 feb update
foundation and the Easter Update.

You have the ability with your multiple systems to be of enormous help
and that is awesome

ZW

[KdF]

This is what I have built in the last couple of months. Yeah, I have gone a little overboard, but I figure with retirement looming, I better upgrade to where things will work for a while.


Upstairs GameRunner:
ASUS Sabertooth X58 LGA 1366 Intel SATA 6Gb/ USB 3.0
Intel Core i7 950 Bloomfield 3.06 GHz LGA 1366 130w Quad Core
CoolerMaster V8 RR-UV8-XBU1-GP 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler
2 Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 1.5 TB SATA 3.0Gb
4 GB Corsair Dominator GT 240 pin DDR3
2 PNY NVIDIA GTX 250 GT's 1GB DDR5 SLI'd
Win 7 Pro 32 bit



Downstairs Wifes Computer:
ASUS Sabertooth X58 LGA 1366 Intel SATA 6Gb/ USB 3.0
Intel Core i7 960 Bloomfield 3.2 GHz LGA 1366 130w Quad Core
CoolerMaster V8 RR-UV8-XBU1-GP 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler
8 GB Corsair Dominator GT 240 pin DDR3
2 Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 2.0 TB SATA 3.0 Gb
2 EVGA GT 560-ti GTX 1GB DDR5 SLI'd
Win 7 Pro 64 bit

Cant seem to edit my signature, so I will just delete it.


KdF

[ZeeWolf]

Originally Posted by KdF

This is what I have built in the last couple of months. Yeah, I have gone a little overboard, but I figure with retirement looming, I better upgrade to where things will work for a while.


Upstairs GameRunner:
ASUS Sabertooth X58 LGA 1366 Intel SATA 6Gb/ USB 3.0
Intel Core i7 950 Bloomfield 3.06 GHz LGA 1366 130w Quad Core
CoolerMaster V8 RR-UV8-XBU1-GP 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler
2 Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 1.5 TB SATA 3.0Gb
4 GB Corsair Dominator GT 240 pin DDR3
2 PNY NVIDIA GTX 250 GT's 1GB DDR5 SLI'd
Win 7 Pro 32 bit



Downstairs Wifes Computer:
ASUS Sabertooth X58 LGA 1366 Intel SATA 6Gb/ USB 3.0
Intel Core i7 960 Bloomfield 3.2 GHz LGA 1366 130w Quad Core
CoolerMaster V8 RR-UV8-XBU1-GP 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler
8 GB Corsair Dominator GT 240 pin DDR3
2 Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 2.0 TB SATA 3.0 Gb
2 EVGA GT 560-ti GTX 1GB DDR5 SLI'd
Win 7 Pro 64 bit

Cant seem to edit my signature, so I will just delete it.


KdF

That's fantastic, I've learned that Nvidia is the best choice when it comes to video cards for tvt. I have recently come to the conclusion that they
are the best performers with tvt. And have you noticed any deference between win7 64bit over win7 32bit?

ZW

[KdF]

Some preformance wise, takes more than 4 gb memory. Little faster at boot. Will not install some older programs. Makes 2 program file folders on install, one regular and one for Win x86. After installing these on both, I'll give 'em a whirl later tonite.

[ZeeWolf]

Originally Posted by KdF

Some preformance wise, takes more than 4 gb memory. Little faster at boot. Will not install some older programs. Makes 2 program file folders on install, one regular and one for Win x86. After installing these on both, I'll give 'em a whirl later tonite.

Great KdF
ZW

[KdF]

<P>OK, yall......how do ya attach Pics?</P>

[Txema]

Originally Posted by ZeeWolf

Hallo Kameraden!
The Easter update (beta) is done.

Note:The main reason this is called a "beta" version is because of the changes made
to increase performance across Operating Systems (OS) platforms. Therefore your feed
back is vital to help complete this phase of this release.

The first thing that must be tested are the changes made in these 8 files:
1.Editor.exe
2.Behavior.dll
3.Controls.dll
4.engine.dll
5.J5Script.dll
6.objects.dll
7.Service.dll
8.UI.dll

The changes made are to the use of the older DirectX 9c with a more common DX 9c. Thus eliminating the need for the
DX 9c shipped with the original DX version that is a hassle to install on Win7 32/64bit system. Although there is no firm
guarantee that it will do as planned, so those with Win7 work with me with your feed back. The stock files are available
available in the file "ZW_2011_Easter_RE-Store.exe" for an easy restore if you have any problems.

The new playable Tiger (early version) is included in three camo schemes Brown, Green and Winter. Also the Panthers
have new skins too as well as others. The winter work continues and will be in the next update with a new map and
missions. All the previous ZW German missions have been re-worked in particular the German missions 2,3 and the
Kursk mission three with much better performance. The new Kursk mission 4 is included and the final on the Kursk
mega map for awhile. The next Kursk mission will be on a smaller size map of 18Km x 18Km, Procharovka (the huge tank battle).

Meanwhile the performance issue has my full attention at this time.

Included to is the Kursk Mission one through four are on a single set of raw data files. This will help to keep the
updates down in size and the terrain consistent between missions, very helpful while designing new missions, etc.
The new German single mission one, two and three are using the same single raw data file set as well. Along of course
with an enormous number of new technical changes.

It will take me about an hour and a half to upload the 105mg file and after
that is complete I'll send you new members the link.

Vorwärts Kameraden!

ZW

ZW,

I have received the link for this update... Thank you very much !!

However you state that it must be installed on top of "ZW_2011_FEB_Update.exe" foundation file.

I have never received that file. The latest files that I have are:

ZW_FINAL_2010_Update
ZW_MO_OctoberUpdate_v1A

Can I install the Easter update on top of these two files or I need to receive the "ZW_2011_FEB_Update.exe" foundation file ?

Thanks for your help !!


Txema

[KapitanDP]

Originally Posted by ZeeWolf

Hi KDP,
Is this only in the Kursk missions for you 1-4 issues?
The gear issue definitely sounds like a conflict problem. I must say too
that your Vista 32 in a new area for me I think you are the only one I
have heard from with this OS. Try re-installing TvT and after adding the
ZW Updates try updating (web update) your DirectX. This will give you
a fresh start.
And a note about uninstalling tvt: After doing a Uninstall go to the tvt
folder and delete manually any files and folders below /T34vsTiger

ZW

ZW,
I did re-install before applying the 2/2011 and Easter Mod. Here is what my testing has shown:

German Missions 1-6, max Gear from Commander position is G4 and I don't get any left or right pulling on the tank.

Zitadelle Missions 1-3, max gear from Commander position is G3 and I get the left and right pulling that I mentioned. I thought maybe it was the terrain but sometimes the tank will not just pull to one side it will actually turn 90 degrees or more until I make it turn back with the opposite turn command.

I also see a 7th German mission titled just "Text". If I highlight it and select "Continue" it just gives me a blank mission screen.

KDP

[ZeeWolf]

Originally Posted by KapitanDP

ZW,
I did re-install before applying the 2/2011 and Easter Mod. Here is what my testing has shown:

German Missions 1-6, max Gear from Commander position is G4 and I don't get any left or right pulling on the tank.

Zitadelle Missions 1-3, max gear from Commander position is G3 and I get the left and right pulling that I mentioned. I thought maybe it was the terrain but sometimes the tank will not just pull to one side it will actually turn 90 degrees or more until I make it turn back with the opposite turn command.

I also see a 7th German mission titled just "Text". If I highlight it and select "Continue" it just gives me a blank mission screen.

KDP

Ok, do you mean that you can not go beyond G4 or is G4 the maximum gear
you can switch to?
As for the tank pulling I am aware of that and I was hoping that I fixed that
and you are correct it is a result of the Kursk terrain. Apparently the large
distance between terrain vertices causes a glitch in the suspension's and
track computation. This is a bug that has vexed me for quite some time
now (it is hit and miss for me)and I may have to reconsider using the mega
map in the future if this can not be resolved.
However, the gear issue or problem you have with the inability to go higher
then G4 is new and have not experienced this problem. Please supply more
details.

ZW

PS: I deliberately left out German mission 7 but forgot to comment out the listing of it.

[Wilcke]

Originally Posted by flying-kane

Hi Zee,

i tested your easter present .

First: Mission accomplished, performance has increased dramatically!
For example:
3. Zitadelle mission:
before: max 10fps
new update: max 35fps/min 12fps (when heavy arty starts firing)

The other missions are playable for now. I think you are on the right way Zee, thx so much!!!

The new stuff is overwhelming, nice skins and nice Tiger model! The Panther looks so beautiful, can't wait to drive it some day.

After all the praise, some negative things and advices.

First:
What i have seen, first german mission in normal singleplayer. When planes arrive, all tanks rise their guns and start shooting at them. Dunno, but this isn't very helpfull, i know Tigers have a 88mm gun^^, but i don't think Tigers used them against planes, but on the surface...

Second:
I mentioned it some time before, the penetration model must be tuned.
Today i played first mission. I faced some T34/85 and SU85 on point blank range (ca. 300m-600m), they hit me some times, northing happened to me, only track damaged or "damn, turret is hit!!". Afterwards i wiped them out and started to reach the last point, the hidden Pak and T-34. I was in a save distance for 76mm guns (1200m!!!), but then the paks and T34/76 starts firing on me. After 3 or 4 direct hits, my tank was a burning chunk of metal. Even with tungsten ammo, the 76mm gun is effective against Tigers front until 500m!

Third:
It's more a suggestion than a problem. I don't know if it is possible to implement this. Radio communication with other tanks in your squad, because at the moment other Tigers drive for themselve and sometimes they stand around doing nothing.
A radio menu: Open Fire! Cease Fire! Follow me! Build wedge formation etc...
I think you know what i mean. This would bring more realism to TvT.

That's all for today!!!

Sincerely Kane

Doing testing, please post your computer specs, video card specs and whether you use the Nvidia Control Panel or ATI control panel to force settings and what the settings are or do you just let the game over ride the video settings for the specific game profile in either control panel.

Screen resolution also, please!

Thanks much!

[flying-kane]

Originally Posted by Wilcke

Doing testing, please post your computer specs, video card specs and whether you use the Nvidia Control Panel or ATI control panel to force settings and what the settings are or do you just let the game over ride the video settings for the specific game profile in either control panel.

Screen resolution also, please!

Thanks much!

Hi wilcke,

my specs are as follows:
Intel Core I5 2500K @ 3,6GHz
8GB DDR3 RAM 1333MHz CL9
AMD HD6850 1GB DDR5
Windows 7 64bit SP1

I use the ATI Tray tools with Catalyst 11.3!
My Resolution is 1280 x 1024 (Desktop and Game).

In game settings: all on max, except tree animation (slider is left).
ATI tray tool: all on default, without vertical synchronisation.
Textures quality on high and mipmap textures on high, too (default is on very high). Anisotrope Filtering is off.

What i have to say is, with new update it's playable for now! But, when arty starts firing, the fps drops down to 14fps and sometimes below.
Zee is on the right way! I hope it becomes better and better with every update.

Sincerely Kane

[KapitanDP]

Originally Posted by ZeeWolf

Ok, do you mean that you can not go beyond G4 or is G4 the maximum gear
you can switch to?
As for the tank pulling I am aware of that and I was hoping that I fixed that
and you are correct it is a result of the Kursk terrain. Apparently the large
distance between terrain vertices causes a glitch in the suspension's and
track computation. This is a bug that has vexed me for quite some time
now (it is hit and miss for me)and I may have to reconsider using the mega
map in the future if this can not be resolved.
However, the gear issue or problem you have with the inability to go higher
then G4 is new and have not experienced this problem. Please supply more
details.

ZW

PS: I deliberately left out German mission 7 but forgot to comment out the listing of it.

ZW,

Here are my CPU spec's:
Vista 32
Intel Duo Core 2.67 Ghz
2 GB Memory
Nvidia GeForce 8800 GT
Video Game Settings: All sliders on Max except Shadows Detail, 1 click down from Max

What I mean about the max gear is that I start the mission at rest in the Commanders Position (Driver and Gunner on auto) I press the "W" key until it stops increasing the Gear setting. In the German missions it goes to G4 and in the Zitadelle missions it goes to G3 and no matter how many more times I press the "W" key it never goes to a higher gear. If I then move temporarily to the driver position, I can increase the Gear setting all the way to the top without any problem. Each time I press the "W" key the Gear setting increases.

KDP

[ZeeWolf]

Originally Posted by KapitanDP

ZW,

Here are my CPU spec's:
Vista 32
Intel Duo Core 2.67 Ghz
2 GB Memory
Nvidia GeForce 8800 GT
Video Game Settings: All sliders on Max except Shadows Detail, 1 click down from Max

What I mean about the max gear is that I start the mission at rest in the Commanders Position (Driver and Gunner on auto) I press the "W" key until it stops increasing the Gear setting. In the German missions it goes to G4 and in the Zitadelle missions it goes to G3 and no matter how many more times I press the "W" key it never goes to a higher gear. If I then move temporarily to the driver position, I can increase the Gear setting all the way to the top without any problem. Each time I press the "W" key the Gear setting increases.

KDP

Ok, I should have known you meant while in Auto Driver mode.
I did some changes to the gears and engine rpm. This had an
effect on auto mode too.
But there is some keys that you need to try in Auto driver mode.
here is an image of the keys I use (but you can change the keys to your
preference) . Notice the slots that say increase RPM/Slow forward and
Decrease RPM/Position. Try those while in auto driver mod and you will see
why I have the top speed reduced in auto mode, Auto mode if for battle.




ZW

PS: In Manual mode you peck the those keys but in Auto Driver you press them once.

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