They want to see Buckingham Palace become a mosque

[SgtPotato]

Wow.. Islam. Big ****ing deal. All religions are ****ing stupid.

[Aramike]

Originally Posted by SgtPotato

Wow.. Islam. Big ****ing deal. All religions are ****ing stupid.

Kinda hard to say that any of the major religions are stupid, considering the amount of power they wield.

Actually they seem quite brilliant...

[onelifecrisis]

Originally Posted by Aramike

Actually they seem quite brilliant...

Originally Posted by Skybird

What means "minority"? Haven't we linked to two separate independant British studies in the past four years, I think, and I mean full-blown academic studies, not just some radio station polls, showing that amongst the UK's Islamic males between 18 and 40 or 50, a hopping 40% want to overthrow the UK and explicitly defend the use of violence - if it cannot be done otherwise?

I missed those... links please!?

Originally Posted by Skybird

Haven't I linked to according studies from Germany over the past years showing that the offsprings of Muslim immigrants, especially Turkish people, in most cases showed to become even more orthodox than their parents ever have been, making mockery of the Gutmenschen-thesis that living in Western civilisation would "westernise" and soften up Islamic attitudes?

Good grief man! Who ever said they would be "westernised" (i.e. secularised, if only partially) in a single generation? Give it time.
P.S. This does prompt a concern in my mind... if the rate of immigration exceeds the rate of secularisation, then you have a problem...

Well Lancecorporal, interesting post , the second half degenerates from this point......

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Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl
He completely disregards the success of free societies in the modern world in favor of a dogma that has kept him and his people in the shackles of state control and religious violence.

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.......very rapidly though.
I have to apologise as you will have to wait for a proper response because I have a plane to catch.

[UnderseaLcpl]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Well Lancecorporal, interesting post , the second half degenerates from this point...... .......very rapidly though.

Yeah, it kind of did. I blame it on brevity brought on by exhaustion.
I was pretty tired by the time I finished the post, so it was rushed.
It seems I owe you another apology.

I thought the last paragraph was rather good, though. I figured a scathing indictment might get some kind of worthwhile response from you. You should know by now that "rofl" and "lol" and "HAHAHAHAHA", and their emoticon equivalents, are not acceptable answers to others' arguments and stated beliefs. Those kinds of answers are generally construed as evidence of you being ignorant or even condescending, which itself implies a degree of ignorance.

I, however, do not think you are ignorant. I think you have a great deal to contribute to these kinds of discussions, even if your point of view typically falls on the left side of the political spectrum (that sounds kind of condescending, but it is not meant to be). There are a number of subsimmers that I, and others, regularly disagree with on this forum but I still hold them in the utmost regard; Skybird, NeonSamurai, and Platapus, to name a few. I have had some excellent discussions with all of them, and I have learned from those discussions. I like to think that they have learned a little from me, or that I have adequately challenged their perspectives. Perhaps I have done nothing but reinforce their existing views, but that is still a constructive purpose, is it not?

Perhaps you like your discussions to be fraught with adversarial rhetoric and insults. If so, I'll be happy to oblige. Nothing you say is going to hurt my feelings. We can exchange s and s for the rest of time if you like. I don't expect that it will be productive, but it could be fun.

Originally Posted by Tribesman

I have to apologise as you will have to wait for a proper response because I have a plane to catch.

No apology needed. I've had to skip out on a number of discussions because of other commitments, including some I've had with you. I hope you have a pleasant flight, and a pleasant stay at your destination.

[nikimcbee]

Well look at the bright side; When the UK is an islamic nation, just think how hot Jim will look in a beard.

We'll have JimtheMullah. But there is a serious problem though, spam is made of pork, so instead if Jim "spamming" could we change the term to tofu-ing? Now Mr Buna won't be beheaded for violating the law.