US Army launches new Iraq offensive.

Heibges · 06-16-07, 12:20 PM

The US Army, supported by various other ash and trash, has launched a new offensive in Iraq. SITREP to follow.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,283280,00.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6759409.stm

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19259106/

It's funny that Fox News and MSNBC carry the same AP Story. No word on CBS, ABC, or CNN.

Skybird · 06-16-07, 12:33 PM

How...hm, how - usual?

How many offensives and major operations have there been in the past? I lost track, sorry.

AntEater · 06-16-07, 12:44 PM

"Offensive" isnt really the right word if you're fighting for control in a country you allready conquered.
No hills to be taken here.
"Major security operation" would be more to the point.

Heibges · 06-16-07, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by AntEater

"Offensive" isnt really the right word if you're fighting for control in a country you allready conquered.
No hills to be taken here.
"Major security operation" would be more to the point.

But that doesn't make for a very good talking point, does it?

Ishmael · 06-16-07, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by AntEater

"Offensive" isnt really the right word if you're fighting for control in a country you allready conquered.
No hills to be taken here.
"Major security operation" would be more to the point.

How about,"Continuing Occupation of a Foreign Country for Oil" ?

U-533 · 06-16-07, 01:47 PM

How 'bout we keep the fightin' over there????

That way we can live our lives oblivious to what true Muslims want ...

Just keep yer head in the sand...

Don't worry over the fact that people are being dragged out of their homes and work places into the streets --- Just to receive a bullet in the brain for not practising the Muslim religion... As I understand it , this way of converting new members is highly effective... That is to say not on the person receiving the bullet but on the people who watch...

Ok ... now strap on yer bombs!

CCIP · 06-16-07, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by U-533

Don't worry over the fact that people are being dragged out of their homes and work places into the streets --- Just to receive a bullet in the brain for not practising the Muslim religion...

As far as I understand, the offensive operation means a lot of people receiving bullets for totally different reasons. Or are those bullets somehow different? :hmm:

U-533 · 06-16-07, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CCIP

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Originally Posted by U-533

Don't worry over the fact that people are being dragged out of their homes and work places into the streets --- Just to receive a bullet in the brain for not practising the Muslim religion...

As far as I understand, the offensive operation means a lot of people receiving bullets for totally different reasons. Or are those bullets somehow different? :hmm:

Of what bullets do you ask?

1:The ones the Muslims are using to terrorise people into submission.

2:The ones being used to stop the Muslim Terrorist.

Lemme ask ya dis??

Which side do you prefer?

A:Muslim Terrorist

B:People trying to stop the Muslim Terrorist

Is there any other kind or bullet or side?

CCIP · 06-16-07, 03:10 PM

This isn't chess. I think it's naive, or at least convenient, to see the situation as black and white. And bullets aren't only colorblind.

Anyway, just making the point that it would be awfully convenient if we had only good and bad bullets out there. Ask an Iraqi civilian if they have any bullet preferences; they're the ones that catch the most of them anyway, whichever direction they come from. :hmm:

Grom · 06-16-07, 03:51 PM

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A:Muslim Terrorist
B:People trying to stop the Muslim Terrorist

Give a break mate, and save these propaganda speeches for other ocasions.

fatty · 06-16-07, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CCIP

This isn't chess. I think it's naive, or at least convenient, to see the situation as black and white. And bullets aren't only colorblind.

Anyway, just making the point that it would be awfully convenient if we had only good and bad bullets out there. Ask an Iraqi civilian if they have any bullet preferences; they're the ones that catch the most of them anyway, whichever direction they come from. :hmm:

Best description I've heard in a long long time.

P_Funk · 06-17-07, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by U-533

Lemme ask ya dis??

Which side do you prefer?

A:Muslim Terrorist

B:People trying to stop the Muslim Terrorist

Is there any other kind or bullet or side?

In keeping with my recent policy of fallacy busting, I'm going to let loose another one.

That is called the fallacy of the false dilemma. The 'with us or a'gin us' idea is one of absolutism and something that ignores the real nature of reality. Nothing is so cut and dried. You therefore can't use it as some kind of trump card in an argument as it has no logical merit.

Dowly · 06-17-07, 06:13 AM

And more young men die for a goal that will never be achieved.

U-533 · 06-18-07, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by P_Funk

Quote:

Originally Posted by U-533

Lemme ask ya dis??

Which side do you prefer?

A:Muslim Terrorist

B:People trying to stop the Muslim Terrorist

Is there any other kind or bullet or side?

In keeping with my recent policy of fallacy busting, I'm going to let loose another one.

That is called the fallacy of the false dilemma. The 'with us or a'gin us' idea is one of absolutism and something that ignores the real nature of reality. Nothing is so cut and dried. You therefore can't use it as some kind of trump card in an argument as it has no logical merit.

WOW!

When it's put that way...That there is no absolutism and something that ignores the real nature of reality...whew!

I guess that all of this ,The earth , moon, stars, Gravity, Time and events ,YOU, and ME...we are but a dream of gods dreamed by many gods that dream they are gods

wow...

So your stating that there is no right or wrong ...just what is best at the time?

So that means that Muslims that execute people are not really executing them?
Your really saying that Muslims are helping people along the way to paradise?

wow... talk about fallacy of the false dilemma

Just what are you on about?

And just who's side are you on anyway?

If you haven't stopped reading this by now.
Just one more question...if you please.

If you go to your local store to purchase what you need and several Muslim Terrorist with bombs and weapons of various sort came in to the same store while you are still shopping...

Would you wish that these terrorist would have been killed in their country or would you wish them killed in yours?

Remember now there is no wrong or right ....

Also remember these Terrorist are gonna kill you and themselves so they can get to their paradise...

If you can't answer this ... then I shall give you the magic power of " Ostiridge " and maybe I'll throw in a pile of sand.

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

U-533 · 06-18-07, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

And more young men die for a goal that will never be achieved.

Sadly...

but so shall it be for as long as it is...

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,604 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	How...hm, how - usual? How many offensives and major operations have there been in the past? I lost track, sorry. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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AntEater Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 936 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	"Offensive" isnt really the right word if you're fighting for control in a country you allready conquered. No hills to be taken here. "Major security operation" would be more to the point. __________________

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CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	This isn't chess. I think it's naive, or at least convenient, to see the situation as black and white. And bullets aren't only colorblind. Anyway, just making the point that it would be awfully convenient if we had only good and bad bullets out there. Ask an Iraqi civilian if they have any bullet preferences; they're the ones that catch the most of them anyway, whichever direction they come from. :hmm: __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

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U-533 Samurai Navy Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: On my Boat Posts: 594 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	How 'bout we keep the fightin' over there???? That way we can live our lives oblivious to what true Muslims want ... Just keep yer head in the sand... Don't worry over the fact that people are being dragged out of their homes and work places into the streets --- Just to receive a bullet in the brain for not practising the Muslim religion... As I understand it , this way of converting new members is highly effective... That is to say not on the person receiving the bullet but on the people who watch... Ok ... now strap on yer bombs!

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Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	And more young men die for a goal that will never be achieved.