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Old 06-10-20, 07:33 PM   #316
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Old 06-10-20, 07:40 PM   #317
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So your saying that I'm not sharp I thought my advice did offer intelligent options ... weed out the bad apples don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

This man George Floyd and the policeman (forgot his name) that put his knee on him worked together as security officer's at a nightclub, right? As I think August said perhaps they were involved in something like drug dealing together at that time. It will all come out at the trial for sure, but the black lives matter won't accept anything negative about Floyd he's a saint now.

The trial won't take place before the election anyway that's for sure ... Did you hear the BLM people? "Let's keep this thing going"

All's well with you and I Commander I've been disrespected before

I can see you won't be happy unless you are the cruise director of this little guilt trip you are trying to take me on.

The reality is, when I mentioned sharp people here, I had you and a number of others in mind. I thought perhaps that others might render an opinion regarding possible solutions regarding the death of George Floyd and how to move forward.

It's all good, Mr, Quatro, as are we.
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Old 06-10-20, 08:15 PM   #318
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You know what's ironic about these protesters pulling down statues because they're offensive? It's the same thing the ISIL did while they had control of Syria & Iraq. Yet one group is praised while the other is condemned for the same acts, and they both use the same reasons as justification. go figure.
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Old 06-10-20, 08:38 PM   #319
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Good grief, you think a cop with any intelligence at all would know better than to kill someone this way.
Perhaps intelligence had everything to do with it imho. Having seen the video, been trained an used restraint methods myself, doing a carotid artery restraint over a trivial bad $20 dollar bill beef for 8 minutes on a handcuffed man makes no sense on its face alone. The fact that officer Chauvin worked an off duty gig for 17 years at a club where Floyd worked four years, speaks volumes. No officer doesn't know his crew and their backup talents threat assessmentwise in case of serious altercations where alcohol is a factor. I've been there and done this from New Years eve bar festivities to large flea markets and know who to count on...Clearly officer Chauvin would have noticed all members of his security crew especially as distinctive as Mr. Floyd. Ergo, he killed someone he actually knew, ignoring pleas for mercy. Mr Chauvin, currently being divorced, and owning another residence in Florida obviously has a high overhead on his officer's salary. A sure bet: Ms Chauvin won't be collecting on his pension! By two autopsies, Mr Floyd had drugs in his system when he passed. Drugs and clubs...not real stretch The relationship between the two co-employees needs thorough scrutiny; murder two might not be the correct charge after all...
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Old 06-10-20, 08:57 PM   #320
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I can see you won't be happy unless you are the cruise director of this little guilt trip you are trying to take me on.

The reality is, when I mentioned sharp people here, I had you and a number of others in mind. I thought perhaps that others might render an opinion regarding possible solutions regarding the death of George Floyd and how to move forward.

It's all good, Mr, Quatro, as are we.
No, no, no cruise director here ... I feel your frustration ... The others just wanted to talk black and white history that's all. The best time to have thoughts are the middle of the night anways. Someone will air their opinion soon I'm sure

For Aktung that cop was a cop in his squad car outside the club while George was the security guard ... Perhaps some money got exchanged to look the other way sometimes.
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First of all, it wasn't a speech; it was a letter

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Old 06-10-20, 10:02 PM   #322
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The reality is, when I mentioned sharp people here, I had you and a number of others in mind. I thought perhaps that others might render an opinion regarding possible solutions regarding the death of George Floyd and how to move forward.
Solutions:

more comprehensive basic training along with regular performance/standards evals
Psychological evals on a regular basis (annual would be fine to start)
no midnite warrant raids (dawn to dusk)
no-knock warrants need to be severely limited
all warrants served by uniformed officers (no plain clothes)
all military gear & weapons banned.
privileged immunity severely curtailed
Unions say in discipline/firing practices limited.
More policeman on foot (in among the public rather than in patrol cars).

That should cover the majority of the problems.
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Old 06-10-20, 10:29 PM   #323
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Geez, my point went right over your head, did'nt?


... and your exact point was...?...





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Old 06-10-20, 10:37 PM   #324
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Solutions:

more comprehensive basic training along with regular performance/standards evals
Psychological evals on a regular basis (annual would be fine to start)
no midnite warrant raids (dawn to dusk)
no-knock warrants need to be severely limited
all warrants served by uniformed officers (no plain clothes)
all military gear & weapons banned.
privileged immunity severely curtailed
Unions say in discipline/firing practices limited.
More policeman on foot (in among the public rather than in patrol cars).

That should cover the majority of the problems.
Agree with all of these. Disappointing that they’re not already in place.
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Old 06-10-20, 11:38 PM   #325
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Well, I can almost guarantee that when those in charge finally come up with a "solution", that solution will cause more problems than it is supposed to solve.
it will be nothing but knee jerk legislation.
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Solutions:

more comprehensive basic training along with regular performance/standards evals
Psychological evals on a regular basis (annual would be fine to start)
no midnite warrant raids (dawn to dusk)
no-knock warrants need to be severely limited
all warrants served by uniformed officers (no plain clothes)
all military gear & weapons banned.
privileged immunity severely curtailed
Unions say in discipline/firing practices limited.
More policeman on foot (in among the public rather than in patrol cars).

That should cover the majority of the problems.

What if the actual problem is the leftist educational system creating a generation of little entitled sociopaths who have also been taught to hate the USA?
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What if the actual problem is the leftist educational system creating a generation of little entitled sociopaths who have also been taught to hate the USA?
What does that have to do with a cop killing an unarmed man for allegedly having a counterfeit $20 bill?

And how exactly is the US education system “leftist”?
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Old 06-11-20, 05:55 AM   #328
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When I was working, (I'm retired now) I have worked with lots of different people white and black.

A lot of the white people were OK, but there was obviously the some real A$$ holes who I wouldn't trust one bit.
Worked with some black people, again a lot were OK but just like the whites there was the odd A$$ hole, I also know of 3 that used the race card at work to their advantage.
My point is there is good and bad in all walks of life.


As for the forged bill that George Floyd had, I'm sure I read somewhere it turned out it wasn't forged but that could be wrong I don't know.
I also read that Chauvin worked inside the club but got lots of complaints so he was moved outside and Floyd remained inside and pi$$ed Chauvin off, but again that also could be wrong, so many things being said it is hard to tell what is true.

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^ The far-far-left senate of Berlin has pushed through a law that reverses the burden of evidence in case of claimed disicrimnation offences. It means that if the police gets accused by somebody that he was "discriminated" in the widest meaning, the claim is now legally seen as evidence as long as the police officers cnanot prove that they did not discriminate.

This is a leftist suicide coup of the worst kind. Police unions are in arms, but the black block faction and the far left squatters and anarchists are celebrating. I know from first hand report that officers already have started to quit. Right they do, its the only advice that is left to give.

The law also affects other official services of public amdinsitration. If you claim you have experienced disrmination, you must not prove it - the other has to prove that he did not discmrinate you.

The law is through all parliamentary instances and is now live and active.

Recently the Constitutional High Court ruled that the German secret services like Bundesnachrichtendienst, MAD shall no longer overhear anybody not just ion germany, but in foreign countries as well. In other words: they have been told to become incapable to do their job.



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