Terrorist attack in Paris on French magazine

[Skybird]

All bad guys dead, nobody escaped, hostages alive. Under the messy circumstances existing at the end: best possible outcome. Congrats to French police.

[Betonov]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

...the necessity for simultaneous operations must have been high.

Well done to the French security guys.

The French were always good at that. Remember Austerlitz. He had 4 armies in support to be force marched if needed, the Austrians and Russians couldn't even get the same date together

[Skybird]

http://www.corriere.it/esteri/15_gen...cea2bbd2.shtml

[Tchocky]

Reports of four hostages dead at the supermarket. Very sad.

Originally Posted by Skybird

http://www.corriere.it/esteri/15_gen...cea2bbd2.shtml

What do we get in return? Kalashnikovs in the heart of Paris. The more we oblige, the more we self-censor, the more we appease, the bolder the enemy gets.

[Dowly]

Sad indeed.

[Skybird]

Police says four hostages were killed prior to the start of police action.

In Malik’s analysis of Quranic strategy, the human soul — and not any physical battlefield — is the center of conflict. The key to victory, taught by Allah through the military campaigns of the Prophet Muhammad, is to strike at the soul of your enemy. And the best way to strike at your enemy’s soul is through terror. Terror, Malik writes, is “the point where the means and the end meet.” Terror, he adds, “is not a means of imposing decision upon the enemy; it is the decision we wish to impose.”
(...)
How we respond to this attack is of great consequence. If we take the position that we are dealing with a handful of murderous thugs with no connection to what they so vocally claim, then we are not answering them. We have to acknowledge that today’s Islamists are driven by a political ideology, an ideology embedded in the foundational texts of Islam. We can no longer pretend that it is possible to divorce actions from the ideals that inspire them.

http://www.corriere.it/esteri/15_gen...cea2bbd2.shtml

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Betonov

The French were always good at that. Remember Austerlitz. He had 4 armies in support to be force marched if needed, the Austrians and Russians couldn't even get the same date together

When thinking about French operations, especially hostage crisis, I always think of the Air France 8969 operation.

[Tchocky]

There's an echo in here.

The following article is, unfortunately, in German, but those interested may try Google translate.
It is about the ongoing hypocrisy with the "Je suis Charlie!" banners, made and held up by the press who dare to talk about freedom of speech/opinion/expression.

"You are not Charlie!"

[Betonov]

Originally Posted by Dowly

When thinking about French operations, especially hostage crisis, I always think of the Air France 8969 operation.

The Airbus A300B2-1C, tail number F-GBEC, had first flown on 28 February 1980.

That airplane has the same birthday as me, only 6 years older.

Sorry, couldn't help noticing

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

The following article is, unfortunately, in German, but those interested may try Google translate.
It is about the ongoing hypocrisy with the "Je suis Charlie!" banners, made and held up by the press who dare to talk about freedom of speech/opinion/expression.

"You are not Charlie!"

People are lazy, so make it as easy for them as possible :

https://translate.google.de/translat...tml&edit-text=
Just hbit the button there.

And compare it with my own post:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...3&postcount=78

Currently, Europe mourns, and sheds tears, and holds motivating speeches. Now that there is not any risk at all involved and no courage needed to hold up a sign in a crowd reading "I am Charlie", people follow the popular trends and follow the rite that is expected of them. Betroffenheitskultur, the German word would be. But I am not like that. I am not sad, and I do not cry - I am angry, and I want to see Europeans finally setting up a fight to Islam - finally. Those people now flocking through the streets, the same people that just a day before maybe still said - and already now say again - that one has to see the good in Islam as well and that it all is relative and a question of interpretation, I spit them my despise on their feet, and all they can get in applause from me for their civilian "courage" by which they "mark a sign", is a slap in their stupid, ignorant face. They should be lambs, not humans, hopping on a meadow and in time being led to the slaughterhouse to contribute to the meal of somebody else.

[Tchocky]

Skybird is apparently not satisfied with labelling every Muslim (fake or not) a threat.

All of you who said anything in support of Charlie Hebdo or anything in commiseration with those who lost their lives. You're all jerks too and deserve a slap in your stupid ignorant faces.

And apparently you should be eaten afterwards. Or something.


It's going to get lonely when there's nobody left to hate and you're standing in the street screaming at corpses.

[Armistead]

With these dirtbags today, you may as well fight from the start, rather than let them get any control over you for torture and death anyway...

I suspect this is the beginning. I can see a future where these acts keep major cities in crisis for a long time to go....massive closings, highways shutdown, etc....

But still we want to appease Islam.....It's just we know moderates in most places aren't moderates....

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by Armistead

But still we want to appease Islam.....It's just we know moderates in most places aren't moderates....

I thought I told you to stop being wrong about "appeasing Islam" in France.

Whatever the hell that's supposed to mean anyway.