The future of simulations

Skybird · 01-02-11, 07:05 AM

simHQ has published a round table interview where participants discussed and exchnaged their views of the genre's future. If half of the names of participants have a meaning to me, then this is a gremium that catches my attention. Among them are Oleg Maddox (IL2-series), Nils Hinrichsen (eSim: Steel Beasts Pro), Vladmimir Zayarnyi (Graviteam: Tiger versus T34), and Richard Flexman Hawley (Tricubic Studios: the helicopter simulation he developes by himself).

http://www.simhq.com/_commentary/all_106a.html

Feuer Frei! · 01-02-11, 08:14 AM

That's actually a really good read, thanks for the link Skybird

Takeda Shingen · 01-02-11, 04:53 PM

An excellent read, Sky. Let us hope that publishers don't completely abandon the PC.

gimpy117 · 01-02-11, 06:43 PM

you also forgot to mention 777 Studios, makers of Rise of flight.
Jason talked about the game. I'm and avid player od RoF myself.

XabbaRus · 01-02-11, 06:52 PM

The general impression I got was one of slight pessimism.

They seem to be concerned that the future of PC simulations relies on nvidia and ATi staying in the PC GFX market.

the_tyrant · 01-02-11, 07:17 PM

Why aren't there any navel sim developers?

personally, i believe that the simulation genre will die
I'm pretty sure creating a sim is more expensive than creating a more casual game, and sims sell less copies. And anyways, when was the last time you saw a sim break into the mainstream market?

TLAM Strike · 01-02-11, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by the_tyrant

Why aren't there any navel sim developers?

Because there are no naval sim games in development...

SCS has nothing in the pipeline for the general public as far as we know.
Ubi has got nothing official in the works.

that leaves what?

Akell and their 2nd PT boat game?
Todem Games next Ironclads if any?
VSTEP and Ship Simulator?
Ilan Papini's Virtual Sailor?
Mike Hense and Dr. Sid?

No real hard hitters on that list

... if only I remembered some of that C++ they tried to teach me in school...

FIREWALL · 01-02-11, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

simHQ has published a round table interview where participants discussed and exchnaged their views of the genre's future. If half of the names of participants have a meaning to me, then this is a gremium that catches my attention. Among them are Oleg Maddox (IL2-series), Nils Hinrichsen (eSim: Steel Beasts Pro), Vladmimir Zayarnyi (Graviteam: Tiger versus T34), and Richard Flexman Hawley (Tricubic Studios: the helicopter simulation he developes by himself).

http://www.simhq.com/_commentary/all_106a.html

Good find Skybird

@ Gimpy I am also a RoF+ICE owner. Best $30.00 I ever spent.

the_tyrant · 01-02-11, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Because there are no naval sim games in development...

SCS has nothing in the pipeline for the general public as far as we know.
Ubi has got nothing official in the works.

that leaves what?

Akell and their 2nd PT boat game?
Todem Games next Ironclads if any?
VSTEP and Ship Simulator?
Ilan Papini's Virtual Sailor?
Mike Hense and Dr. Sid?

No real hard hitters on that list

... if only I remembered some of that C++ they tried to teach me in school...

what about the battlestations series? (sure its not exactly a sim, but i enjoyed it)

Anyways, you do have some good 3d modeling skills, and i'll probably buy "TLAM Strike's Modern Submarine Warfare"
just use the engine for Danger from the Deep

oddly, simulation sales in china are increasing, though the only type of sim that is gaining in popularity is the "H-game"

TLAM Strike · 01-02-11, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by the_tyrant

Anyways, you do have some good 3d modeling skills, and i'll probably buy "TLAM Strike's Modern Submarine Warfare"
just use the engine for Danger from the Deep

I can't say I have not been tempted... Unfortunately there is a big empty spot in my brain that use to have info on BASIC, C++ and Visual BASIC. I think I store Pizza recipes there or something now...

FIREWALL · 01-02-11, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

I can't say I have not been tempted... Unfortunately there is a big empty spot in my brain that use to have info on BASIC, C++ and Visual BASIC. I think I store Pizza recipes there or something now...

Page 7 was the most interesting reading.

the_tyrant · 01-02-11, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

I can't say I have not been tempted... Unfortunately there is a big empty spot in my brain that use to have info on BASIC, C++ and Visual BASIC. I think I store Pizza recipes there or something now...

Back to the topic, I think this project has quite a lot of ambition:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/dangerdeep/
(I have a feeling that one of us is behind this project)
It has all the basics, i guess maybe if we find some dedicated modders, give us some time, and we can actually create a top quality game

gimpy117 · 01-02-11, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by FIREWALL

Good find Skybird

@ Gimpy I am also a RoF+ICE owner. Best $30.00 I ever spent.

we'll have to fly a sortie online sometime!

FIREWALL · 01-02-11, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by gimpy117

we'll have to fly a sortie online sometime!

That sounds greay Gimpy

. I've always wanted to try online but, was not sure how to do it.

Maybe you can help see how to do it.

Castout · 01-02-11, 11:15 PM

My opinion on the future of simulations:

Yes it's all blank and empty spaces: There's none.

01-02-11, 07:05 AM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,609 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	The future of simulations simHQ has published a round table interview where participants discussed and exchnaged their views of the genre's future. If half of the names of participants have a meaning to me, then this is a gremium that catches my attention. Among them are Oleg Maddox (IL2-series), Nils Hinrichsen (eSim: Steel Beasts Pro), Vladmimir Zayarnyi (Graviteam: Tiger versus T34), and Richard Flexman Hawley (Tricubic Studios: the helicopter simulation he developes by himself). http://www.simhq.com/_commentary/all_106a.html __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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Feuer Frei! Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Valhalla Posts: 5,295 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 17	That's actually a really good read, thanks for the link Skybird __________________ "History is the lies that the victors agree on"- Napoleon LINK TO MY SH 3 MODS

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gimpy117 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 3,243 Downloads: 108 Uploads: 0	you also forgot to mention 777 Studios, makers of Rise of flight. Jason talked about the game. I'm and avid player od RoF myself. __________________ Member of the Subsim Zombie Army

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XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	The general impression I got was one of slight pessimism. They seem to be concerned that the future of PC simulations relies on nvidia and ATi staying in the PC GFX market. __________________

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the_tyrant Admiral Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 2,272 Downloads: 58 Uploads: 0	Why aren't there any navel sim developers? personally, i believe that the simulation genre will die I'm pretty sure creating a sim is more expensive than creating a more casual game, and sims sell less copies. And anyways, when was the last time you saw a sim break into the mainstream market? __________________ My own open source project on Sourceforge OTP.net KGB grade encryption for the rest of us

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Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	An excellent read, Sky. Let us hope that publishers don't completely abandon the PC.

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Castout Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Jakarta Posts: 4,794 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 6	My opinion on the future of simulations: Yes it's all blank and empty spaces: There's none. __________________ My blog: http://exposingsingapore.wordpress.com/