Canada vs. Denmark - Hans Island

AG124 · 12-12-05, 08:32 PM

Just an interesting poll, not trying to start a sovereignty war. :P For those of you who don't know what I'm talking about, Hans Island is a tiny and pretty much worthless island between Greenland and Ellesmere Island to which both Canada and Denmark claim ownership.

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2...226125-cp.html

http://www.cbc.ca/cp/world/050815/w081534.html

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2...222670-cp.html

http://news.gc.ca/cfmx/view/en/index...ticleid=170319

http://www.halifaxlive.com/artman/pu...705_8810.shtml

http://www.recorder.ca/cp/National/050722/n072267A.html

snowsub · 12-12-05, 09:34 PM

Not another tin-pot rock in the middle of nowhere so countries can beat they're chests over it

Here's a solution; blow the thing to bits so no-one can whinge

TLAM Strike · 12-12-05, 11:34 PM

If these two nations cant decide who owns this rock I'm going to invade and conquer it as the first territory of the â€˜Empire of TLAMâ€™!
>insert John William's Imperial March here<

CCIP · 12-13-05, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

>insert John William's Imperial March here<

OK!

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Me? I don't know. I have enough rocks here, but suppose I'll back Canada. Unless Denmark is willing to give all residents of Hans Island Danish citizenship.

In which case I'll be the island's first permanent resident

retired1212 · 12-13-05, 01:59 AM

lets sell the WMD to both countries.
Nukes! yeah baby!!

CCIP · 12-13-05, 02:07 AM

Hey, we can make our own!

We gave India theirs... and the Manhattan project

(that is, India got the reactors from Canada; and the Manhattan project got its uranium from here, too)

Kapitan · 12-13-05, 02:41 AM

tis true

canada denmark hasnt got a big powerful navy and canada has a lot of influence and allies so does denmark but both countries need to look.

hans island is nearer canadian terratory than denmarks greenland and there fore should be claimed as canadian terratory

failing that split it 50 / 50

snowsub · 12-13-05, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Kapitain

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hans island is nearer canadian terratory than denmarks greenland and there fore should be claimed as canadian terratory
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Falklands anyone? :rotfl:

Kapitan · 12-13-05, 01:32 PM

heck

TteFAboB · 12-13-05, 02:25 PM

How do I apply for citizenship to the Empire of TLAM?

Etienne · 12-13-05, 03:32 PM

Hans island isn't the point. The territorial waters around the island are :-D

It's in the Davis strait. There might be oil there (Which nobody can be bothered to go get now), and it's on the way to the Northwest Passage, which could, eventually, possibly, become an important waterway. In the summer, at least, when hens grow teeths.

But the politicians promised the hens dentures.

Torpedo Fodder · 12-14-05, 12:52 AM

It's not in the Davis Strait, it's in the Nares Strait. Since the island isn't even in international waters, (it directly straddles the boundary between Canadian and Danish territoral waters), whoever gets it will not be gaining any new maritime territory. While there may be potential oil in the Davis strait, since Hans Island isn't there, that point is moot. It's also hundreds of miles away from any potential shipping lanes, such as the Northwest Passage. Frankly, I couldn't care less which side gets a lump of rock that is strategicly worthless, and has no inhabitants and no viable resources.

Just to illustrate how far Hans Island is from any potential Northwest Passage shipping route:

But if Canada really wants it, maybe we can get the US to invoke the Monroe Doctrine over the issue

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Marhkimov · 12-14-05, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Torpedo Fodder

But if Canada really wants it, maybe we can get the US to invoke the Monroe Doctrine over the issue

.

RULE#1: Never ask the US for anything...

Or else we might just occupy it ourselves and establish a semi-pseudo-pro-US democracy.

Etienne · 12-14-05, 08:35 AM

Damn it, I got spanked.

I must have been thinking of another island or issue.

TLAM Strike · 12-20-05, 10:06 AM

Just because you can keep the vicious Danish invaders at bay do you really think you can stop us Americans?

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Politics...360315-cp.html

Is the cold getting to your heads or something? You people need to chill out. (I apologize for the very bad and unintended pun.) :rotfl:

View Poll Results: Hans Island - Canada vs Denmark
Island is Canadian Territory	8	24.24%
Island is Danish Territory	9	27.27%
Don't Know/Care	16	48.48%
Voters: 33. You may not vote on this poll

12-12-05, 09:34 PM	#2
snowsub 中国水兵 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Moreton bay Posts: 286 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Not another tin-pot rock in the middle of nowhere so countries can beat they're chests over it Here's a solution; blow the thing to bits so no-one can whinge __________________

12-12-05, 11:34 PM	#3
TLAM Strike Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 8,633 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 6	If these two nations cant decide who owns this rock I'm going to invade and conquer it as the first territory of the â€˜Empire of TLAMâ€™! >insert John William's Imperial March here< __________________

12-13-05, 01:59 AM	#5
retired1212 Officer Join Date: May 2005 Location: North Pole, World Posts: 240 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	lets sell the WMD to both countries. Nukes! yeah baby!! __________________ Sub has been gifted to enemy in exchange of asylum and money

12-13-05, 02:07 AM	#6
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Hey, we can make our own! We gave India theirs... and the Manhattan project (that is, India got the reactors from Canada; and the Manhattan project got its uranium from here, too) __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

12-12-05, 08:32 PM	#1
AG124 Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,878 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Canada vs. Denmark - Hans Island Just an interesting poll, not trying to start a sovereignty war. :P For those of you who don't know what I'm talking about, Hans Island is a tiny and pretty much worthless island between Greenland and Ellesmere Island to which both Canada and Denmark claim ownership. http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2...226125-cp.html http://www.cbc.ca/cp/world/050815/w081534.html http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2...222670-cp.html http://news.gc.ca/cfmx/view/en/index...ticleid=170319 http://www.halifaxlive.com/artman/pu...705_8810.shtml http://www.recorder.ca/cp/National/050722/n072267A.html

12-13-05, 02:41 AM	#7
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	tis true canada denmark hasnt got a big powerful navy and canada has a lot of influence and allies so does denmark but both countries need to look. hans island is nearer canadian terratory than denmarks greenland and there fore should be claimed as canadian terratory failing that split it 50 / 50 __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

12-13-05, 01:32 PM	#9
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	heck __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

12-13-05, 02:25 PM	#10
TteFAboB Admiral Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,247 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	How do I apply for citizenship to the Empire of TLAM?

12-13-05, 03:32 PM	#11
Etienne Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 695 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Hans island isn't the point. The territorial waters around the island are :-D It's in the Davis strait. There might be oil there (Which nobody can be bothered to go get now), and it's on the way to the Northwest Passage, which could, eventually, possibly, become an important waterway. In the summer, at least, when hens grow teeths. But the politicians promised the hens dentures.

12-14-05, 12:52 AM	#12
Torpedo Fodder Ensign Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Whitby, Ontario Posts: 234 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	It's not in the Davis Strait, it's in the Nares Strait. Since the island isn't even in international waters, (it directly straddles the boundary between Canadian and Danish territoral waters), whoever gets it will not be gaining any new maritime territory. While there may be potential oil in the Davis strait, since Hans Island isn't there, that point is moot. It's also hundreds of miles away from any potential shipping lanes, such as the Northwest Passage. Frankly, I couldn't care less which side gets a lump of rock that is strategicly worthless, and has no inhabitants and no viable resources. Just to illustrate how far Hans Island is from any potential Northwest Passage shipping route: But if Canada really wants it, maybe we can get the US to invoke the Monroe Doctrine over the issue . __________________ Si vis pacem, para bellum - If you want peace, prepare for war. "Those who turn their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't"

12-14-05, 08:35 AM	#14
Etienne Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 695 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Damn it, I got spanked. I must have been thinking of another island or issue.

12-20-05, 10:06 AM	#15
TLAM Strike Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 8,633 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 6	Just because you can keep the vicious Danish invaders at bay do you really think you can stop us Americans? http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Politics...360315-cp.html Is the cold getting to your heads or something? You people need to chill out. (I apologize for the very bad and unintended pun.) :rotfl: __________________