wrong labels everywhere

Badileus · 12-26-18, 11:25 AM

Hi,

ok this may be an old (stock) bug and for most people certainly an absolute minor problem. I tried to ignore it but it still annoys me a lot: You all know perhaps the little black plates on gauges and machines, they are all over the place from bow to stern and all labeled wrong with terms of the TDC like "Schußwinkel", "Schiffspeilung", "Gegnerlage" (gyro angle, target bearing, angle of bow) etc., some of them even upside down...

I have TWoS installed and there are interior mods with changed a bit in comparison to the stock version, all great work of course, but this bug remained. My question: Is there a (modding) specialist among you, who can tell me if it is possible (and how) to change these labels or at least remove them completely? Or if there is a reason why it can´t be changed?

I wouldt be a big relief for me, not to have to see these absurd plates anymore!

Thanks a lot!

gap · 12-26-18, 12:53 PM

Hi Badileus,

if you want those labels fixed, maybe you can do a little inventory of them, specifying for each label: the Uboat compartment where it is found, the device it is placed on, its current (wrong) lettering and the correct term that we should use instead. For gauges not immediately visible, a screenshot might also be useful.

Hopefully, with this information, fixing the wrong labels shouldn't be too difficult

Fifi · 12-26-18, 01:02 PM

Perso, i would like to see them removed .... because with my Nvidia card, those labels are often flickering when not too close of them

Badileus · 12-30-18, 02:09 PM

Here now some screenshots, where i have marked the wrong labels with a red cross. I made suggestions for the correct labeling, if possible. The terms for that i have taken from pictures and videos of the U-995 here in germany, as far as i couldt recognise them (from the web, i had no time to visit it myself lately).
Perhaps you can tell me if it is possible to change, delete or just blacken the labels individually. And if that wouldt be compatible with TWoS.

Here are the pictures, 2 from the e-machine-room, the rest are located in the command room (Zentrale):
(I just see in the "posting rules", that i "may not post attachments". What does that mean? For now, i just insert the links...)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/thfnzg0fl4...0left.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/faudgzjb7b...right.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/sbatuaqxug...rale1.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/yqd9xkag0b...rale2.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/jxfe972mqm...rale3.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4agm0yzzh6...rale4.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7rurkht8ak...rale5.jpg?dl=0

gap · 12-31-18, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badileus

Here now some screenshots, where i have marked the wrong labels with a red cross. I made suggestions for the correct labeling, if possible. The terms for that i have taken from pictures and videos of the U-995 here in germany, as far as i couldt recognise them (from the web, i had no time to visit it myself lately).
Perhaps you can tell me if it is possible to change, delete or just blacken the labels individually. And if that wouldt be compatible with TWoS.

Well done Badileus. I had no time to check them all, but most if not all the labels found in the rooms that you have pointed out, have their textures in CR9C_2.dds. Granted that the same labels are not used multiple times in different places, one could simply change the lettering of each label directly on that texture. Otherwise, changing the UV mapping of wrong labels (so that they use another texture), or removing the redundant ones, shouldn't be too complicated.

Compatibility with TWoS shouldn't be an issue either. In one of the next days I could deal with that, but you should send me the following files from your SH5/TWoS install:

data\Textures\TNormal\tex\CR9C_2.dds
data\Submarine\Common\Rooms\Room_CR.GR2
data\Submarine\NSS_Uboat7a\NSS_Uboat7a.TRA.GR2
data\Submarine\NSS_Uboat7c\NSS_Uboat7c.TRA.GR2

Badileus · 12-31-18, 04:38 PM

Thank you for your time! I will send you the files. If I understand it right, the dds-file is the (only?) source for the plates-textures, and in the GR2-files they are placed at different locations in the room (CR = Control Room?).

But it seems to me that these plates were originally intended for the TDC in the tower (next to the attack periscope), where they are used correctly now. I think the devs used the same plates then for the whole boat, to save work and thinking, nobody will notice it (at least not english-speaking people...).

So if the plates in the dds-file as they are now are changed, will this not affect the TDC plates in the tower also? Or is it possible to add more labeled plate-textures in the dds-file, to have a greater "pool" of labels to choose from?

12-26-18, 11:25 AM	#1
Badileus Watch Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 16 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	wrong labels everywhere Hi, ok this may be an old (stock) bug and for most people certainly an absolute minor problem. I tried to ignore it but it still annoys me a lot: You all know perhaps the little black plates on gauges and machines, they are all over the place from bow to stern and all labeled wrong with terms of the TDC like "Schußwinkel", "Schiffspeilung", "Gegnerlage" (gyro angle, target bearing, angle of bow) etc., some of them even upside down... I have TWoS installed and there are interior mods with changed a bit in comparison to the stock version, all great work of course, but this bug remained. My question: Is there a (modding) specialist among you, who can tell me if it is possible (and how) to change these labels or at least remove them completely? Or if there is a reason why it can´t be changed? I wouldt be a big relief for me, not to have to see these absurd plates anymore! Thanks a lot!

12-26-18, 12:53 PM	#2
gap Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: CJ8937 Posts: 8,214 Downloads: 793 Uploads: 10	Hi Badileus, if you want those labels fixed, maybe you can do a little inventory of them, specifying for each label: the Uboat compartment where it is found, the device it is placed on, its current (wrong) lettering and the correct term that we should use instead. For gauges not immediately visible, a screenshot might also be useful. Hopefully, with this information, fixing the wrong labels shouldn't be too difficult __________________ _____________________ \|May the Force be with you!\| ...\/

12-26-18, 01:02 PM	#3
Fifi Navy Seal Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: France Posts: 5,778 Downloads: 456 Uploads: 0	Perso, i would like to see them removed .... because with my Nvidia card, those labels are often flickering when not too close of them __________________ https://www.mediafire.com/file/23e48...N_V5.9.7z/file

12-30-18, 02:09 PM	#4
Badileus Watch Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 16 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Here now some screenshots, where i have marked the wrong labels with a red cross. I made suggestions for the correct labeling, if possible. The terms for that i have taken from pictures and videos of the U-995 here in germany, as far as i couldt recognise them (from the web, i had no time to visit it myself lately). Perhaps you can tell me if it is possible to change, delete or just blacken the labels individually. And if that wouldt be compatible with TWoS. Here are the pictures, 2 from the e-machine-room, the rest are located in the command room (Zentrale): (I just see in the "posting rules", that i "may not post attachments". What does that mean? For now, i just insert the links...) https://www.dropbox.com/s/thfnzg0fl4...0left.jpg?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/faudgzjb7b...right.jpg?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/sbatuaqxug...rale1.jpg?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/yqd9xkag0b...rale2.jpg?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/jxfe972mqm...rale3.jpg?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/4agm0yzzh6...rale4.jpg?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/7rurkht8ak...rale5.jpg?dl=0 Last edited by Badileus; 12-30-18 at 02:47 PM.

12-31-18, 04:38 PM	#6
Badileus Watch Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 16 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Thank you for your time! I will send you the files. If I understand it right, the dds-file is the (only?) source for the plates-textures, and in the GR2-files they are placed at different locations in the room (CR = Control Room?). But it seems to me that these plates were originally intended for the TDC in the tower (next to the attack periscope), where they are used correctly now. I think the devs used the same plates then for the whole boat, to save work and thinking, nobody will notice it (at least not english-speaking people...). So if the plates in the dds-file as they are now are changed, will this not affect the TDC plates in the tower also? Or is it possible to add more labeled plate-textures in the dds-file, to have a greater "pool" of labels to choose from?