Australia is the first country to ban branding on cigarette packets

Gerald · 11-11-11, 03:33 AM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-15673797

Note: 10 November 2011 Last updated at 16:15 GMT

Reece · 11-11-11, 06:20 AM

What else do you expect from Australia, wont be long and it will be against the law to smoke here! That will kill tourism for sure!

Who said we were a democracy, the country is run by a bunch of dictators, 100%

Gerald · 11-11-11, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Reece

What else do you expect from Australia, wont be long and it will be against the law to smoke here! That will kill tourism for sure!

Who said we were a democracy, the country is run by a bunch of dictators, 100%

For ya Reece,

Jimbuna · 11-11-11, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Reece

What else do you expect from Australia, wont be long and it will be against the law to smoke here! That will kill tourism for sure!

Who said we were a democracy, the country is run by a bunch of dictators, 100%

Are you a smoker mate?

Oberon · 11-11-11, 07:52 AM

The list of things that are verboten in the Holy Australian Empire seems to be getting longer and longer...

Jimbuna · 11-11-11, 09:31 AM

At this rate they'll soon be catching up with us Brit folk

Reece · 11-11-11, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

Are you a smoker mate?

No but it is a persons right to smoke if they want!!

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Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

Why? Because that's the reason people visit Oz?

Not that alone but imagine if a smoker comes here and their smokes are confiscated, lets face it almost half the western world would be smokers and if they couldn't smoke or bring there own they are not likely to come, if I were a smoker I wouldn't go to a country that banned them!

CaptainMattJ. · 11-12-11, 02:48 AM

im sick of this mentality that peoples MUST save others from their own sins and all that nonsense. If a person wants to smoke, what right is it of yours to tell them no. If a person wants to do something (that doesnt infringe on yours rights), then its no business of yours to tell them they cant or shouldnt. i understand businesses banning smoking and and around their restaurant, but this is a bit too far.

Skybird · 11-12-11, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainMattJ.

im sick of this mentality that peoples MUST save others from their own sins and all that nonsense. If a person wants to smoke, what right is it of yours to tell them no. If a person wants to do something (that doesnt infringe on yours rights), then its no business of yours to tell them they cant or shouldnt. i understand businesses banning smoking and and around their restaurant, but this is a bit too far.

Yes, but two demands I have.

First, diseases caused by the abuse of tobacco, alcohol, should not be payed for by health insurrances when becoming treated. If you intentionally do harm to yourself, I wonder why I am expected to pay for your compensation. You can poke your eye with a pencil intentionally, if you like it. But I hate to pay the doctors bill when you go to hospital. My sense of solidarity (as expressed on social security systems) is for you suffering damage when being caught in an accident, getting struck by fate without it being your fault, or becoming ill by age or more natural means. My solidarity ends when you act stupid and against better knowledge.

Second, the public sphere should be clean of smoke. Especially intense smokers stink like hell, even when not smoking, because the stuff is in their hair, their cloathing, on and in the skin. While that cannot be changed, you can at least demand smokers to not contaminate the air with actively blowing their stinking smoke from a burning cigarette around: Verursacherprinzip - the one causing the dirt or the noise, is responsible for stopping the pollution.

In Germany, many bar owners said that their business has not changed much in numbers, but the audience sometimes has changed. Some smokers stay away, but they won new customers, non-smokers, that before choosed to not enter a smoke-hole.

Jimbuna · 11-12-11, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Reece

No but it is a persons right to smoke if they want!!

Not that alone but imagine if a smoker comes here and their smokes are confiscated, lets face it almost half the western world would be smokers and if they couldn't smoke or bring there own they are not likely to come, if I were a smoker I wouldn't go to a country that banned them!

I can't see it stopping that many people...they will always find somewhere to smoke whether it be behind the walls of a private residence or some other building...surely.

Reece · 11-12-11, 07:17 AM

Yes but it shouldn't be, this is as bad as forcing adults to wear helmets on pushbikes and horses, fining me $150 for endangering my life!!

or banning fireworks etc, it's a crime to enjoy yourself!!

Herr-Berbunch · 11-12-11, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Reece

No but it is a persons right to smoke if they want!!

But what about the non-smokers right to not smell the stinky stuff? At present when I walk out of one particular supermarket I'd have to walk through about a dozen peoples' fug! Same for shopping malls and pubs. And as for other buildings, like my workplace, or a restaurant - people returning after smoking reek, as nice-a-person as they may be it just isn't nice.

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Originally Posted by Reece

Not that alone but imagine if a smoker comes here and their smokes are confiscated, lets face it almost half the western world would be smokers and if they couldn't smoke or bring there own they are not likely to come, if I were a smoker I wouldn't go to a country that banned them!

If people pre-flight are aware that they will be confiscated they wouldn't take them, but buy them on arrival - taxes to Oz, nice move by your government really.

Roughly 20% of the world's population are smokers (1.3bn), mostly males, and Russia and China make up the largest bulk of that. Can't be bothered to do the maths for western-only.

They aren't banned, only the branding is banned.

For once, I'm with Sky'

TarJak · 11-12-11, 05:08 PM

The mad Welsh ranga is not banning smoking, just the right of a drug manufacturer to have pretty packaging and advertising of their product.

The only reason people are getting het up about this, is history. If a manufacturer came up with a new product today that was known to kill half of its users and contained the many toxins that cigarettes do, then it wouldn't even make it to market.

And I curse Sir Walter Raileigh, he was such a stupid git!

Herr-Berbunch · 11-11-11, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Reece

That will kill tourism for sure!

Why? Because that's the reason people visit Oz?

Jimbuna · 11-11-11, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

Why? Because that's the reason people visit Oz?

Probably....I've heard it's full of fags

11-11-11, 03:33 AM	#1
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CaptainMattJ. The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sin City Posts: 1,364 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 0	im sick of this mentality that peoples MUST save others from their own sins and all that nonsense. If a person wants to smoke, what right is it of yours to tell them no. If a person wants to do something (that doesnt infringe on yours rights), then its no business of yours to tell them they cant or shouldnt. i understand businesses banning smoking and and around their restaurant, but this is a bit too far. __________________ A popular Government without popular information nor the means of acquiring it, is but a Prologue to a Farce or a Tragedy or perhaps both. Knowledge will forever govern ignorance, and a people who mean to be their own Governors must arm themselves with the power knowledge gives - James Madison

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Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,795 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Yes but it shouldn't be, this is as bad as forcing adults to wear helmets on pushbikes and horses, fining me $150 for endangering my life!! or banning fireworks etc, it's a crime to enjoy yourself!! __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

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Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	The list of things that are verboten in the Holy Australian Empire seems to be getting longer and longer...

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TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	The mad Welsh ranga is not banning smoking, just the right of a drug manufacturer to have pretty packaging and advertising of their product. The only reason people are getting het up about this, is history. If a manufacturer came up with a new product today that was known to kill half of its users and contained the many toxins that cigarettes do, then it wouldn't even make it to market. And I curse Sir Walter Raileigh, he was such a stupid git!