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Old 07-05-10, 02:18 AM   #1
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German Police Arrest man with "Hitlermobil"

Passanger in station Harburg in north Germany reaact,when Adolf Hitlers voice screaming
out over perrong,Adolf Hitlers speech ending traditional nazi,”sieg heil”.
He had also a foto with svastika.

police say at he can have up to 3 years in prison!
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Old 07-05-10, 02:49 AM   #2
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Wow.

kidna have to wonder what this guy was thinking.
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Old 07-05-10, 03:00 AM   #3
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I'ts really.....

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Wow.

kidna have to wonder what this guy was thinking.
strange,however maybe he need some medical mental hospital,fore a while.....
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I'm quite sure that what he had to say was unpopular with many people.

One must stop, think, and remmember, that free speech is not written into constitutions to protect popular speech, which needs no such protection.

It would seem that tyranical government has never left Germany.
It just switched to the opposite extreme.
Meaning this german government is no better than that which they condem.

When Free Speech is killed, Free Thinking is the next target.
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Free thinking......

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I'm quite sure that what he had to say was unpopular with many people.

One must stop, think, and remmember, that free speech is not written into constitutions to protect popular speech, which needs no such protection.

It would seem that tyranical government has never left Germany.
It just switched to the opposite extreme.
Meaning this german government is no better than that which they condem.

When Free Speech is killed, Free Thinking is the next target.
is humans right
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Old 07-05-10, 03:41 AM   #6
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is humans right
And what the Nazis did and propagated (und propagate until today) - was that too "humans right"?
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I'm quite sure that what he had to say was unpopular with many people.

One must stop, think, and remmember, that free speech is not written into constitutions to protect popular speech, which needs no such protection.

It would seem that tyranical government has never left Germany.
It just switched to the opposite extreme.
Meaning this german government is no better than that which they condem.


With that you just have disqualified yourself. I could as well compare Obama to the KKK.
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Old 07-05-10, 04:03 AM   #8
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With that you just have disqualified yourself. I could as well compare Obama to the KKK.
Obama, and the KKK, is an ocean away.

USA doesn't have the Free Speech problem. Germany does.
Three years in prison for violating speech regulation???!
Is this a free country we are discussing, or has sharia law kicked in already?
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I'm quite sure that what he had to say was unpopular with many people.

One must stop, think, and remmember, that free speech is not written into constitutions to protect popular speech, which needs no such protection.

It would seem that tyranical government has never left Germany.
It just switched to the opposite extreme.
Meaning this german government is no better than that which they condem.

When Free Speech is killed, Free Thinking is the next target.
Very well said,screw the system and SPEAK YOUR MIND!
Although what that guy did in Germany was just insane! LOL
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I'm quite sure that what he had to say was unpopular with many people.

One must stop, think, and remmember, that free speech is not written into constitutions to protect popular speech, which needs no such protection.

It would seem that tyranical government has never left Germany.
It just switched to the opposite extreme.
Meaning this german government is no better than that which they condem.

When Free Speech is killed, Free Thinking is the next target.
While this of course is an extreme statement, it does have a very good point. A long time ago, I, too, posted on a forum about how Nazis shouldn't be allowed to demonstrate, or speak their mind. As part of the ensuing discussion, someone pointed out to me that I was proposing basically the same model of freedom of speech that was in use in Nazi Germany: you can say whatever you please, with no restrictions, censorship, or fear of punishment... except from things that do not go along with the party line. In 2010 in Germany, every statement is allowed, except from statements that further a policy that goes against that of the strongly anti-Nazi government.

The punishments differ, sure, no one loses their heads, or faces firing squads, or mysteriously vanish for saying the Holocaust didn't take place. But facing up to three years of jail (more than you get for rape in many places) is still a very harsh sentence, and when it comes down to it, the sentiment -- that our cause is so all-important, so "sacred", that we simply cannot allow anyone to speak up against it, is the same.
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While this of course is an extreme statement, it does have a very good point. A long time ago, I, too, posted on a forum about how Nazis shouldn't be allowed to demonstrate, or speak their mind. As part of the ensuing discussion, someone pointed out to me that I was proposing basically the same model of freedom of speech that was in use in Nazi Germany: you can say whatever you please, with no restrictions, censorship, or fear of punishment... except from things that do not go along with the party line. In 2010 in Germany, every statement is allowed, except from statements that further a policy that goes against that of the strongly anti-Nazi government.

The punishments differ, sure, no one loses their heads, or faces firing squads, or mysteriously vanish for saying the Holocaust didn't take place. But facing up to three years of jail (more than you get for rape in many places) is still a very harsh sentence, and when it comes down to it, the sentiment -- that our cause is so all-important, so "sacred", that we simply cannot allow anyone to speak up against it, is the same.
Glad to see the point of my post did not go unnoticed.

Thank you for expanding, and clarifying further, the intent of my post.
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I'm quite sure that what he had to say was unpopular with many people.

One must stop, think, and remmember, that free speech is not written into constitutions to protect popular speech, which needs no such protection.

It would seem that tyranical government has never left Germany.
It just switched to the opposite extreme.
Meaning this german government is no better than that which they condem.

When Free Speech is killed, Free Thinking is the next target.

Nail on the head!

While I don't agree with what the man was doing - Stupidity isn't a crime!

We see all to often how people become the monsters they thought they destroyed and how laws are used to abuse former abusers.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Hatred breeds hatred. It will continue to evolve and spread until this world ends itself in nuclear destruction.

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Nail on the head!

While I don't agree with what the man was doing - Stupidity isn't a crime!

We see all to often how people become the monsters they thought they destroyed and how laws are used to abuse former abusers.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Hatred breeds hatred. It will continue to evolve and spread until this world ends itself in nuclear destruction.

Then the world will have to contend with SuperMutants, Feral Ghouls, RadRoaches, RadScorpions, and Molerats! Reserve your family's seat with Vault-Tec Today!
Sounds like the forum members!

Stupidity is a crime when it leads to negligence.
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Old 07-06-10, 12:01 PM   #14
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Nail on the head!

While I don't agree with what the man was doing - Stupidity isn't a crime!

We see all to often how people become the monsters they thought they destroyed and how laws are used to abuse former abusers.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Hatred breeds hatred. It will continue to evolve and spread until this world ends itself in nuclear destruction.

Then the world will have to contend with SuperMutants, Feral Ghouls, RadRoaches, RadScorpions, and Molerats! Reserve your family's seat with Vault-Tec Today!
What the man did was absolutly insane,but I'cant say at the and of the world, will be nuclear
disaster,I say if more of us, talk and solved common issue,and have a open mind and not stand in a corner to "only" watch,act and that's give you advantage!
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Old 07-06-10, 12:39 PM   #15
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Wow.

kidna have to wonder what this guy was thinking.

You hit it right on the head GR. He wasn't thinking.
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