Should I buy SH5 or stick with SH4 for now?

jdupree · 03-12-10, 11:24 AM

I am having fun learning SH4 and have not got too far into it yet. I have been reading alot of negative comments about SH5. My main concern is will my computer handle it? I read the system requirements for SH5 and mine should handle it. Here is some basic info on my machine. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated.

Pentium 4 @3.6ghz
2 gigs of ram - (will be upgrading to 4 gigs soon)
Nvidia 9800 gt with 512 ram
Windows XP

SH4 runs great on my machine. Thanks!

TDK1044 · 03-12-10, 11:36 AM

Is your processor dual core? You will need a dual core processor to run Silent Hunter 5.

My answer would be to give Silent Hunter 5 at least 6 months to settle down before you purchase it.

jdupree · 03-16-10, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TDK1044

Is your processor dual core? You will need a dual core processor to run Silent Hunter 5.

My answer would be to give Silent Hunter 5 at least 6 months to settle down before you purchase it.

I guess my processor is a dual core? Not quite sure how to check but I ran a dxdiag and out beside the processor info it had (2 cpu's)??

msxyz · 03-16-10, 09:36 AM

Stick to Sh4 and enjoy its mods.

SH5 graphics are marginally better but they come at the cost of increased hardware requirements. Considering what it's effectively put onscreen I'd say the 3D engine of SH5 is poorly optimized.

The novelty or running back and forth in a 3D environment wears out pretty soon, particulary because there's only one sub modelled. I'm not even sure they modelled correctly the differences between revision A-B-C. They look all the same to me (except the missing stern tube in type VIIA).

It's really just some eyecandy thrown with no real purpose. You cannot turn the various knobs and handles by yourself. Most dials are static.

The crew is composed of puppets staying in the same spot all the time and repeating the same animations over and over.

The interface is a huge step back from SH4 and SH3.

Crew management is a joke

The bugs in this software are as numerous as ants feasting over a decoposing carrion.

Last, there's the wonderful DRM scheme which is entirely dependant on staying connected to a remote server all the time.

Phantom Mark · 03-16-10, 09:51 AM

Re-Installing SH4 as we speak, say no more

Gilbou · 03-16-10, 10:05 AM

Reinstall SH4 and/or SH3 for now.

You do know how SH3 and SH4 were when they did came out.

You have to wait monthes if not one year minimum before you even
consider trying it...

And I seriously suggest not buying it until the DRM and onlne requirement
is removed.

Faamecanic · 03-16-10, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by msxyz

The novelty or running back and forth in a 3D environment wears out pretty soon, particulary because there's only one sub modelled. I'm not even sure they modelled correctly the differences between revision A-B-C. They look all the same to me (except the missing stern tube in type VIIA).

Its not missing the rear tube.... the rear tube in the Type VIIA was EXTERNAL with one torpedo only (no reload).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Type_VII_submarine

msxyz · 03-16-10, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Faamecanic

Its not missing the rear tube.... the rear tube in the Type VIIA was EXTERNAL with one torpedo only (no reload).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Type_VII_submarine

I know, I meant to say that the launch tube was not visible from the inside.

The stern room is the only clear difference. It seems to be Ubisoft just modelled the interior after the only surviving uboat (a type C/41), the U995. But that is a late war boat.

Type A, B interiors were quite different in terms of machinery installed. There's a good deal of photos and books on the subjet. Even if it means little from the game point of view, at least it would have been one aspect done right.

jazman · 03-16-10, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdupree

I guess my processor is a dual core? Not quite sure how to check but I ran a dxdiag and out beside the processor info it had (2 cpu's)??

Probably not real dual core. What you are probably seeing is hyperthreading, which is fake dual core.

Run System Information (XP: start -> Programs -> Accessories -> Sytem Tools -> System Information) and provide the Processor information, that includes Family, Model, Stepping.

Or go here and get CPU-Z:

http://www.cpuid.com

Direct link to installer:

http://www.cpuid.com/download/cpuz/cpuz_153_setup.exe

and run it and post a screenshot of the first page (of the application, of course, not of the install process).

Hartmann · 03-16-10, 04:14 PM

stay with SH4 and SH3 GWX

Both gives you an impressive historical review of all years of the submarine war in both theathers of war , and are nearly bug free and tested.

In the other side you can try SHV , that have more bugs that the outpost valley of starship troopers movie, a draconian DRM that makes you unable to play at weekends and demands a lot of patience because of the absurd gameplay involved with arcade an unreal features..

The best is wait until it will be fully patched, modded, and the price goes down. and perhaps DRM removed

Phantom Mark · 03-16-10, 09:00 AM

I am really regretting having picked up a copy from the shops......

I am finding it a constant frustration with this game, SH4 and the way it worked was much more my cup of tea, especially with some of the excellent mods out there.

Will shelve my copy and wait a year or so and see if it becomes worth playing in the future.

Quite gutted, I should have trusted my instincts on this one, dont even get me started on the DRM

subsimlee · 03-16-10, 09:14 AM

Got my refund from GameStop yesterday. I think SH5 could be a great sim in the future after 47 patches and 683 mods or so.... Seriously I returned it because even after I had paid for it, Ubisoft wouldn't let me play it most of the time, especially Saturdays, Sundays and yesterday. That should be a deal breaker but most seem to be hanging in living in hopes of better days.

Phantom Mark · 03-16-10, 09:23 AM

Got me wondering if there is any possible way I could justify a refund at the store I got mine from now.....I don't see how I could present reasonable justification tho ??

Anybody else managed a refund from "GAME" in the UK ??

Drifter · 03-17-10, 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subsimlee

I think SH5 could be a great sim in the future after 47 patches and 683 mods or so

lmao

ParaB · 03-12-10, 11:36 AM

Your single-core CPU might be a problem with SH5, memory and gfx card are OK. As a rule of thumb I'd say if you can run SH4 maxed out with good FPS then SH5 will most probably be playable on your system, too.

SH5 has two main problems right now:

1.) the online DRM system that has in the past couple of days repeatedly made it impossible for customers to actually play the game because the UBI servers encountered technical problems and you have to be connected to those servers all the time, even for singleplayer mode.

2.) the unfinished state of SH5 that involves a rather large number of minor and major bugs and missing/unfinished features.

On the plus side: with the help of a fast-growing number of mods already released SH5 can actually be quite a lot of fun.

It basically depends on how much you're interested in the atlantic theater and how willing you are to put up with the DRM and SH5's state.

03-12-10, 11:24 AM	#1
jdupree Seaman Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 40 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	Should I buy SH5 or stick with SH4 for now? I am having fun learning SH4 and have not got too far into it yet. I have been reading alot of negative comments about SH5. My main concern is will my computer handle it? I read the system requirements for SH5 and mine should handle it. Here is some basic info on my machine. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated. Pentium 4 @3.6ghz 2 gigs of ram - (will be upgrading to 4 gigs soon) Nvidia 9800 gt with 512 ram Windows XP SH4 runs great on my machine. Thanks!

03-16-10, 09:36 AM	#4
msxyz Engineer Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 218 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Stick to Sh4 and enjoy its mods. SH5 graphics are marginally better but they come at the cost of increased hardware requirements. Considering what it's effectively put onscreen I'd say the 3D engine of SH5 is poorly optimized. The novelty or running back and forth in a 3D environment wears out pretty soon, particulary because there's only one sub modelled. I'm not even sure they modelled correctly the differences between revision A-B-C. They look all the same to me (except the missing stern tube in type VIIA). It's really just some eyecandy thrown with no real purpose. You cannot turn the various knobs and handles by yourself. Most dials are static. The crew is composed of puppets staying in the same spot all the time and repeating the same animations over and over. The interface is a huge step back from SH4 and SH3. Crew management is a joke The bugs in this software are as numerous as ants feasting over a decoposing carrion. Last, there's the wonderful DRM scheme which is entirely dependant on staying connected to a remote server all the time. __________________ ...Sinking deeper into the cold, dark oceans of life

03-16-10, 04:14 PM	#10
Hartmann Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Grid CH 26, Spain ,Barcelona Posts: 1,857 Downloads: 204 Uploads: 0	stay with SH4 and SH3 GWX Both gives you an impressive historical review of all years of the submarine war in both theathers of war , and are nearly bug free and tested. In the other side you can try SHV , that have more bugs that the outpost valley of starship troopers movie, a draconian DRM that makes you unable to play at weekends and demands a lot of patience because of the absurd gameplay involved with arcade an unreal features.. The best is wait until it will be fully patched, modded, and the price goes down. and perhaps DRM removed __________________ But this ship can't sink!... She is made of iron, sir. I assure you, she can. and she will. It is a mathematical certainty. Strength and honor

03-12-10, 11:36 AM	#2
TDK1044 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 2,674 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Is your processor dual core? You will need a dual core processor to run Silent Hunter 5. My answer would be to give Silent Hunter 5 at least 6 months to settle down before you purchase it.

03-16-10, 09:51 AM	#5
Phantom Mark Bosun Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 69 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Re-Installing SH4 as we speak, say no more

03-16-10, 10:05 AM	#6
Gilbou Chief Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: France Posts: 313 Downloads: 152 Uploads: 0	Reinstall SH4 and/or SH3 for now. You do know how SH3 and SH4 were when they did came out. You have to wait monthes if not one year minimum before you even consider trying it... And I seriously suggest not buying it until the DRM and onlne requirement is removed.

03-16-10, 09:00 AM	#11
Phantom Mark Bosun Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 69 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	I am really regretting having picked up a copy from the shops...... I am finding it a constant frustration with this game, SH4 and the way it worked was much more my cup of tea, especially with some of the excellent mods out there. Will shelve my copy and wait a year or so and see if it becomes worth playing in the future. Quite gutted, I should have trusted my instincts on this one, dont even get me started on the DRM

03-16-10, 09:14 AM	#12
subsimlee Mate Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 55 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	Got my refund from GameStop yesterday. I think SH5 could be a great sim in the future after 47 patches and 683 mods or so.... Seriously I returned it because even after I had paid for it, Ubisoft wouldn't let me play it most of the time, especially Saturdays, Sundays and yesterday. That should be a deal breaker but most seem to be hanging in living in hopes of better days.

03-16-10, 09:23 AM	#13
Phantom Mark Bosun Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 69 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Got me wondering if there is any possible way I could justify a refund at the store I got mine from now.....I don't see how I could present reasonable justification tho ?? Anybody else managed a refund from "GAME" in the UK ??

03-12-10, 11:36 AM	#15
ParaB Chief Join Date: May 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 327 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	Your single-core CPU might be a problem with SH5, memory and gfx card are OK. As a rule of thumb I'd say if you can run SH4 maxed out with good FPS then SH5 will most probably be playable on your system, too. SH5 has two main problems right now: 1.) the online DRM system that has in the past couple of days repeatedly made it impossible for customers to actually play the game because the UBI servers encountered technical problems and you have to be connected to those servers all the time, even for singleplayer mode. 2.) the unfinished state of SH5 that involves a rather large number of minor and major bugs and missing/unfinished features. On the plus side: with the help of a fast-growing number of mods already released SH5 can actually be quite a lot of fun. It basically depends on how much you're interested in the atlantic theater and how willing you are to put up with the DRM and SH5's state.