Chill Winston! (Neal vs OSP - youtube vid!)

Oberon · 02-18-10, 06:40 AM

Nordmann · 02-18-10, 07:16 AM

The impression I'm getting here, is that Neal does not have a copy with the OSP enabled.

TH0R · 02-18-10, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Nordmann

The impression I'm getting here, is that Neal does not have a copy with the OSP enabled.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...3&postcount=71

My prayers are with this statement. But, you know how they say, assumption is the mother of all...

Nordmann · 02-18-10, 07:31 AM

Indeed, it's possible that the two games have differing implementations, but then that raises the question as to why? Surely, if you're going down the OSP road, then you use the same system across all of your products.

Brag · 02-18-10, 07:52 AM

Good and informative vid. Was it PC Gamer who also expressed doubts about their DRM version? They definetely had a different version than Neal.

The Enigma · 02-18-10, 08:05 AM

It is obvious that the preview will not have the final version of OSP build in.

UBI will do everything to prevent OSP from being broken before release date of the final game.

java`s revenge · 02-19-10, 05:52 AM

I don`t deal with your opions. Neal let me see enough to be satisfied.

02-19-10, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by java`s revenge

I don`t deal with your opions. Neal let me see enough to be satisfied.

Please make another post, right about now your number of posts is 666.

Otherwise, I may think of you and your opinions in a distorted way.

java`s revenge · 02-19-10, 06:13 AM

Wow, what a reaction. I feel this as an attack.

I don`t let me be intimidated.

02-19-10, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by java`s revenge

Wow, what a reaction. I feel this as an attack.

I don`t let me be intimidated.

It's not an attack, it was just a joke, when I attack, I am a little more aggressive.

longam · 02-18-10, 07:17 AM

Dear lord ...good one Neal!

MercurySeven · 02-18-10, 07:32 AM

Over one minute of diconnected gameplay. Interesting.

This could allow for small bumps in the connection. However, the queston remains whether you have some sort of allowed timeframe in which you have to reconnect or whether Neal just happened to disconnect between two connection-checks by chance.

In the first case this would allow for smaller hickups in the internet connection.

The second case would not, as it would be possible to lose connection just before the next check with the UBI servers is due, which could stop your game.

Sadly I don't see UBI revealing such information anytime soon as they might consider it confidential ...

piri_reis · 02-18-10, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MercurySeven

Sadly I don't see UBI revealing such information anytime soon as they might consider it confidential ...

That's funny, anybody can run a packet sniffer, to check when and where the application connects, what kind of data it sends (almost definetly encrypted), and how long the application is set to ignore a disconnection.
This kind of information is not crucial for their OSP protection. It's how they implemented the authentication/encryption and the relationship these modules have with the game. Can the crackers put a Jump Routine in the application where it checks for online connection/ubi server permission??

That's all the fight, the minute this is discovered a crack will be out.
Ubi is just stupid to hold information that will help us customers to decide to buy it or not, because that little information is no problem for somebody educated enough to discover..

Mud · 02-18-10, 07:44 AM

Neal plays a preview version and I'm pretty sure this is not the DRM/OSP what we get in the final version.
I'll bite my tongue if I'm wrong.

Mud

urfisch · 02-18-10, 07:46 AM

one things for sure: the game has nice graphics...

02-18-10, 06:40 AM	#1
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Chill Winston! (Neal vs OSP - youtube vid!)

02-18-10, 07:16 AM	#2
Nordmann Commodore Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: England Posts: 628 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	The impression I'm getting here, is that Neal does not have a copy with the OSP enabled. __________________ "I must confess that my imagination refuses to see any sort of submarine doing anything but suffocating its crew and floundering at sea." - H. G. Wells

02-18-10, 07:31 AM	#4
Nordmann Commodore Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: England Posts: 628 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	Indeed, it's possible that the two games have differing implementations, but then that raises the question as to why? Surely, if you're going down the OSP road, then you use the same system across all of your products. __________________ "I must confess that my imagination refuses to see any sort of submarine doing anything but suffocating its crew and floundering at sea." - H. G. Wells

02-18-10, 07:52 AM	#5
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Good and informative vid. Was it PC Gamer who also expressed doubts about their DRM version? They definetely had a different version than Neal. __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

02-18-10, 08:05 AM	#6
The Enigma Seer of visions Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Under the surface Posts: 2,315 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	It is obvious that the preview will not have the final version of OSP build in. UBI will do everything to prevent OSP from being broken before release date of the final game. __________________

02-19-10, 05:52 AM	#7
java`s revenge Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: at periscope depth Posts: 1,204 Downloads: 97 Uploads: 0	I don`t deal with your opions. Neal let me see enough to be satisfied. __________________

02-19-10, 06:13 AM	#9
java`s revenge Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: at periscope depth Posts: 1,204 Downloads: 97 Uploads: 0	Wow, what a reaction. I feel this as an attack. I don`t let me be intimidated. __________________

02-18-10, 07:17 AM	#11
longam Admiral Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,014 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	Dear lord ...good one Neal!

02-18-10, 07:32 AM	#12
MercurySeven Mate Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 53 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	Over one minute of diconnected gameplay. Interesting. This could allow for small bumps in the connection. However, the queston remains whether you have some sort of allowed timeframe in which you have to reconnect or whether Neal just happened to disconnect between two connection-checks by chance. In the first case this would allow for smaller hickups in the internet connection. The second case would not, as it would be possible to lose connection just before the next check with the UBI servers is due, which could stop your game. Sadly I don't see UBI revealing such information anytime soon as they might consider it confidential ...

02-18-10, 07:44 AM	#14
Mud Captain Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 541 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	Neal plays a preview version and I'm pretty sure this is not the DRM/OSP what we get in the final version. I'll bite my tongue if I'm wrong. Mud __________________

02-18-10, 07:46 AM	#15
urfisch Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Deep down in Germany Posts: 1,969 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	one things for sure: the game has nice graphics... __________________