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09-18-18, 01:03 AM | #1 |
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Russian IL-20 shot down over Med
CNN coverage:
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/09/17/p...utm_term=image Ria coverage: https://translate.google.ru/translat...%2F&edit-text=
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09-18-18, 04:37 AM | #2 |
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That rare case when CNN tells nearly the same as our MD ((((
This kind of action is in Israel's style - however they should warn our military of their strike and they did it only one minute before attack. Seems that Israel is showing their reaction to Russia-Turkey latest agreement. Wonder if an idea to shove our IL-20 under Syrian AA missiles was initiative of somebody in Israel's lower commanding link ( say a young commander of flight was taking decisions by situation and thought it was a good idea without taking into account international relations) or was it approved by their higher command and political leaders ?
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09-18-18, 06:50 AM | #3 |
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I was somehow not aware that Israel was at war with Syriah/Assad
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09-18-18, 08:56 AM | #4 |
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So the Syrians shot it down in error?
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09-18-18, 10:43 AM | #5 | |
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COLLATERAL DAMAGE?
PERHAPS NOT
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09-18-18, 10:53 AM | #6 |
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Some might say 'Karma can sometimes be a bitch'.
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09-18-18, 09:28 AM | #7 |
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not Syria per se, but against Iranian forces based in Syria and their proxies. good background overview here: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/09/w...-air-base.html
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09-18-18, 04:16 PM | #9 |
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^ Thanks Bilge_Rat, good link
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09-18-18, 04:28 PM | #10 |
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Syria is a messy war. Good that we are not escalating this incident beyond what is nessesary.
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09-18-18, 04:40 PM | #11 |
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I assume the Israeli fighters used the radar silhouette of the Russian plane as cover against Assad's air defence when they flew another raid on Syrian targets. The Syrians, so the idea, would not endanger a plane by their allies. In fact, manouvers like this are nothing knew at all. Well, apparently something went wrong.
Well, its a war zone, and its a hot war, and somebody's plane, which is none of ours, got shot down. End of story. If Russia would have downed an Israeli plane - that would be a story with potential. But not this one. Or have Russia's interests in Syria become out interests recently? There is a big hi-ho-hello about the Turkish-Russian "deal" about Idlib. What a nonsense. Its an ultimatum: get out in time, or die. Syria openly talks of Assad taking control of the region, and the enemy fighters either retreat (where to? Idlib is their last stronghold. Into Turkey? The Turkey that nevertheless is EU candidate?Oh my, please not, even if they get supported by Erdoghan ) and hand over their weapons, since they must not fear revenge by Assad'S regime... or staying there and getting wiped out in some time. A "deal"? Russia and Syria can end the war with an unconditional victory (something I thought would be impossible some years ago), and complete annihilation of their enemy. Who dares to think they will let this chance pass unused after they did since years what they must do to get where they are now - fighting without remorse and bombing into niravana all and everything in their way...? Its blablabla. Erdoghan will soon find out at his cost. Russia still has an open bill with him over that downed Russian plane some time ago. And Russia will not pass on the chance to weaken Turkish ambitions in the Black Sea region while Turkey is weakened by a serious financial and economic crisis and in past month alone had to sell over one fifth of its gold reserves to keep afloat. Erdoghan is weakened, and Putin will make use of it. He would be stupid not to do so.
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