Any tips on BF 109?

Happy Times · 11-26-07, 04:09 PM

This is the plane i love and want to be good in. Any tips or links to guides for a noob that comes first in your mind are welcomed.

I read some basics before starting flight training, i know its a boom&zoom plane. Is there anywhere stats on different models and its commont opponents, turn&climb rate etc...?:hmm:

Dowly · 11-26-07, 04:13 PM

many allied planes can out-turn the 109, so pretty much the only tactic is the Boom&Zoom.

XabbaRus · 11-26-07, 04:28 PM

Says he who fights in WoE in the weeds

Dowly · 11-26-07, 04:33 PM

Atleast I fight in there. :p

Chock · 11-26-07, 05:27 PM

You might want to read this review of the shockwave bf109E by me, it is based closely on the characteristics of the real bf109:

http://www.avsim.com/pages/1107/bf109/bf109.htm

The main plus points of it are: fuel injection so it doesn't lose power when suddenly pushed into negative G nosedives; good low speed control, owing to the automatic slats and variable flaps which can be used in combat unlike a lot of other WW2 fighters, also easier to recover from a spin than most other WW2 fighters and stalls quite gently; good concentrated firepower which rewards accurate shooting up close; small cross-section makes it slightly better for head on attacks, as you present a smaller target; well harmonised controls throughout a wide range of the flight regime; better suited to combat than most contemporary RAF fighters in the Battle of Britain owing to it's less complex engine/prop management in combat situations; it was very serviceable, an engine switch could be done in 12 minutes.

The main minus points are: can be unstable in an uncoordinated turn, owing to uneven slat deployment; ammunition it fired was of a low muzzle velocity, causing cannon shells to explode on contact rather than penetrate and then explode, cockpit visibility was poor in comparison to other fighters; trickier to take-off and land than many other contemporary WW2 fighters, owing to the narrow track landing gear and CoG being quite far back when at high fuel loads, undercarriage was also a little weak; it was noisier than most other WW2 fighter in the cockpit; it had no rudder trimmer and no geared tabs, so it was tiring to fly it for long periods and it always requires a good bootful of rudder to keep it straight; the coolant system was vulnerable to enemy fire; it was hard to get it out of a high speed dive, the elevators became very heavy under high aerodynamic loads; it used 87 octane fuel as opposed to the 100 octane fuel of most Allied aircraft, making it more prone to pre-ignition; slab-sided canopy would often reflect the sun and betray its position.

Chock

Happy Times · 11-28-07, 05:19 PM

Thank you for your replies.

I found these.
http://www.virtualpilots.fi/feature/articles/109myths/

http://109lair.hobbyvista.com/index1024.htm

My love gets stronger.

PS. Cool pictures and paint schemes if Dowly hasnt seen them yet.

11-26-07, 04:09 PM	#1
Happy Times Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 2,950 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Any tips on BF 109? This is the plane i love and want to be good in. Any tips or links to guides for a noob that comes first in your mind are welcomed. I read some basics before starting flight training, i know its a boom&zoom plane. Is there anywhere stats on different models and its commont opponents, turn&climb rate etc...?:hmm: __________________

11-26-07, 04:28 PM	#3
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Says he who fights in WoE in the weeds __________________

11-26-07, 05:27 PM	#5
Chock Sea Lord Join Date: May 2005 Location: Under a thermal layer in chilly Olde England Posts: 1,842 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	You might want to read this review of the shockwave bf109E by me, it is based closely on the characteristics of the real bf109: http://www.avsim.com/pages/1107/bf109/bf109.htm The main plus points of it are: fuel injection so it doesn't lose power when suddenly pushed into negative G nosedives; good low speed control, owing to the automatic slats and variable flaps which can be used in combat unlike a lot of other WW2 fighters, also easier to recover from a spin than most other WW2 fighters and stalls quite gently; good concentrated firepower which rewards accurate shooting up close; small cross-section makes it slightly better for head on attacks, as you present a smaller target; well harmonised controls throughout a wide range of the flight regime; better suited to combat than most contemporary RAF fighters in the Battle of Britain owing to it's less complex engine/prop management in combat situations; it was very serviceable, an engine switch could be done in 12 minutes. The main minus points are: can be unstable in an uncoordinated turn, owing to uneven slat deployment; ammunition it fired was of a low muzzle velocity, causing cannon shells to explode on contact rather than penetrate and then explode, cockpit visibility was poor in comparison to other fighters; trickier to take-off and land than many other contemporary WW2 fighters, owing to the narrow track landing gear and CoG being quite far back when at high fuel loads, undercarriage was also a little weak; it was noisier than most other WW2 fighter in the cockpit; it had no rudder trimmer and no geared tabs, so it was tiring to fly it for long periods and it always requires a good bootful of rudder to keep it straight; the coolant system was vulnerable to enemy fire; it was hard to get it out of a high speed dive, the elevators became very heavy under high aerodynamic loads; it used 87 octane fuel as opposed to the 100 octane fuel of most Allied aircraft, making it more prone to pre-ignition; slab-sided canopy would often reflect the sun and betray its position. Chock __________________ Last edited by Chock; 11-26-07 at 05:50 PM.

11-28-07, 05:19 PM	#6
Happy Times Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 2,950 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Thank you for your replies. I found these. http://www.virtualpilots.fi/feature/articles/109myths/ http://109lair.hobbyvista.com/index1024.htm My love gets stronger. PS. Cool pictures and paint schemes if Dowly hasnt seen them yet. __________________

11-26-07, 04:13 PM	#2
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,005 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	many allied planes can out-turn the 109, so pretty much the only tactic is the Boom&Zoom.

11-26-07, 04:33 PM	#4
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,005 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Atleast I fight in there. :p