[REL] Open Horizons II

[TheDarkWraith]

Originally Posted by Trevally.

Fantastic Mille - you have found a bug with ME2

Ok - here is what is happening.

The "TargetType=1" means that the target id should be based on unit type. If it was "TargetType=0" then target is based on class.
So this is not a problem.

But what is a problem is that every time a target id is set by class - they are assigned a type "102" - this is very wrong as this is for a cargo ship.
ME2 is not setting the correct unittype when forcing target id as a class.

I have checked through some other campaigns and every time target id is set by class - this wrong unittype is being set.

So - This could also be the reason for so many ctds with the stock campaign. In the mission "sink the carrier" - this target is set by class with the wrong type (102) and could be the reason for the stock campaign ctd when hitting this carrier.

I can fix this and post a hotfix tonight.

Many thanks Mille - this could be the issue we have all been looking for

Can you explain in detail what this means? I'd like to check for this error in the SH Validator app. I need to understand what is wrong/what to look for so I can update the app

[Trevally.]

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

Can you explain in detail what this means? I'd like to check for this error in the SH Validator app. I need to understand what is wrong/what to look for so I can update the app

yes sure TDW - that would be good

When we use ME2 and set conditions, they are saved in the campaign.cfg within each campaign folder.

Some conditions can be to target ships by either type (11=BB, 11=BC) or class (name within sea folder cfg).
When ME2 sets target by type - it gives the campaign.cfg a "TargetType=1"
When by class - it gives "TargetType=0"

If we set target by class - it gives the following:-

Class=BCRenown (battleCrusier)
Type=102 (should be 10)
TargetType=0

So here is the bug where it is also giving us a type and it is wrong. A type=102 is a cargo ship. It should be type=10 for BattleCruiser as set within the names.cfg in the roaster.



If we set target by type - it gives the following:-

Type=10
TargetType=1

This one is correct.

[TheDarkWraith]

I understand somewhat

Given the following:

[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 3]
ObjectiveID=TG_British_Supplies
Name=Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 3.Name
MapZone=BritishSupplies
ValuePointsProvided=3
FurtherInfo=Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 3.FurtherInfo
StartDate=19390901
EndDate=19400601
IsCompleted=false
IsFailed=false
IsUnlocked=true
AssocMissionsActive=
AssocMissionsCompleted=
ObjActivationAchievements=OBJ Invasion Of Poland
[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 3.PersObj 1]
PersObjType=0
Name=Sink_100,000_tons_of_cargo_in_South_Western_A pproaches
Description=Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 3.PersObj 1.Description
RelatedMapLocations=Area_Southwestern
IsCompleted=false
[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 3.PersObj 1.Amount]
IsTonnage=true
Tonnage=100000
NumOfShips=0
[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 3.PersObj 1.CrtAmount]
IsTonnage=false
Tonnage=0
NumOfShips=0
[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 3.PersObj 1.TargetType 1]
Type=102
TargetType=1
[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 3.PersObj 1.TargetType 2]
Type=101
TargetType=1
[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 3.PersObj 1.TargetType 3]
Type=103
TargetType=1
[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 3.PersObj 1.TargetType 4]
Type=107
TargetType=1
[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 3.PersObj 1.TargetType 5]
Type=109
TargetType=1
[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 3.PersObj 1.TargetType 6]
Type=108
TargetType=1
[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 3.PersObj 1.TargetIdentif 1]
TargetIdType=1
ToNode=St. Nazaire
FromNode=Bristol
[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 3.PersObj 1.TargetIdentif 2]
TargetIdType=1
ToNode=Bristol
FromNode=St. Nazaire

It appears that this 'problem' only appears on those entries that end with .TargetType x correct?

How does one cross reference the Type=x for each entry to what it should be? For instance the entry ending in .TargetType 6 where can I find what the actual Type=x should be? How do I know that Type=108 is incorrect? How do I know that TargetType=1 is correct?

[Trevally.]

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

It appears that this 'problem' only appears on those entries that end with .TargetType x correct?

\yes - it looks like when the TargetType=1 it works correctly.
This "1" is saying - target is set by type.

So it will also have "Type=x" if x being a ship type found in roaster/names.cfg.

 
;Warships
Type0=Patrol Craft
Type1=Corvette
Type2=Frigate
Type3=Destroyer Escort
Type4=Destroyer
Type5=Minesweeper
Type6=Light Cruiser
Type7=Heavy Cruiser
Type8=Escort Carrier
Type9=Fleet Carrier
Type10=Battlecruiser
Type11=Battleship
Type12=Minelayer
Type13=Auxiliary Cruiser
Type14=Special OPS Boat
Type15=Landing Craft
Type16=Elite Patrol Craft
Type17=Elite Destroyer escort
Type18=Elite Escort Carrier
Type19=Super Fleet carrier
Type20=Super Battleship
;Merchant ships
Type100=Replenishment
Type101=Tanker
Type102=Cargo
Type103=Troop Transport
Type104=Coastal Vessel
Type105=Life Raft
Type106=Survivor
Type107=Z ships
Type108=Rare Cargo ship
Type109=Rare Troop Transport
Type110=Environmental
;Submarine
Type200=Submarine
Type201=Replenishment Submarine
Type202=Missile Submarine
Type203=Environmental

If TargetType=0 - this is where I think there is an error.
This "0" is saying - target is set by class (name).

Class=BCRenown
Type=102
TargetType=0

So the name is BCRenown and is found in the sea folder ships cfg
This may be enough for the game to be able to id the target, but it also lists the ship type (as with the example above for TargetType=1)

Now if the game also reads the type=102 - this will not match with the type in the ships cfg file. For this ship (Renown) it is type 10

How does one cross reference the Type=x for each entry to what it should be? For instance the entry ending in .TargetType 6 where can I find what the actual Type=x should be? How do I know that Type=108 is incorrect? How do I know that TargetType=1 is correct?

This is either read from the roaster/names.cfg or the Sea/ships names/ships name.cfg - both should match.

So - if your app can check if in campaign folder campaign.cfg has the entry TargetType=0
It should check the ship class(name) from same file (campaign.cfg) and then look in that ships cfg file for unittype - then check that is the same as the Type=x in the campaign.cfg

[Swat]

I ran the test now after OHII 1.8 patch 2.

There are two bad news and one good news. It will be definitely different depending on the installation of every skipper here. So the first bad news is that I had a ctd southeast of Scapa again when I was making my approach. No contacts, the game crashed. Loaded the game back and finally made my way in. Now the good news is the game didn't crash inside the base. Fired four torps at the capital ship, watched the sinking with all the fireworks etc. Even attacked and sunk one destroyer with my aft torpedo-hit, explosions, sinking, everything good.

Second bad news is that all other ships are absolutely inert again just like if it was without IRAI. I mean stationary, hydrophones on, pinging and everything, doing nothing. Loaded the game again and tried again and destroyers are only shining at me, can be surfaced or submerged, get no fire from them. However I did take a heavy fire from the capital ship when surfaced and close.

Just to conclude my findings if it's going to be any help for your awsome work (I mean all the modders now). I'm using MMM where IRAI is included, I just applied OHII patch 1.2. Should I start new career to make this change function properly? But I think it's definitely going somewhere because before this patch no way I could spot/approach/attack/observe the capital ship. Then I escaped Scapa with objective accomplished (full bar on "Sink one capital ship at Scapa flow").

[TheDarkWraith]

Originally Posted by Trevally.

If TargetType=0 - this is where I think there is an error.
This "0" is saying - target is set by class (name).

Class=BCRenown
Type=102
TargetType=0

So the name is BCRenown and is found in the sea folder ships cfg
This may be enough for the game to be able to id the target, but it also lists the ship type (as with the example above for TargetType=1)

Now if the game also reads the type=102 - this will not match with the type in the ships cfg file. For this ship (Renown) it is type 10

This is either read from the roaster/names.cfg or the Sea/ships names/ships name.cfg - both should match.

So - if your app can check if in campaign folder campaign.cfg has the entry TargetType=0
It should check the ship class(name) from same file (campaign.cfg) and then look in that ships cfg file for unittype - then check that is the same as the Type=x in the campaign.cfg

that's what I needed to know I'll work on this addition to the app tonight.

[misha1967]

Originally Posted by Swat

I ran the test now after OHII 1.8 patch 2.

There are two bad news and one good news. It will be definitely different depending on the installation of every skipper here. So the first bad news is that I had a ctd southeast of Scapa again when I was making my approach. No contacts, the game crashed. Loaded the game back and finally made my way in. Now the good news is the game didn't crash inside the base. Fired four torps at the capital ship, watched the sinking with all the fireworks etc. Even attacked and sunk one destroyer with my aft torpedo-hit, explosions, sinking, everything good.

Second bad news is that all other ships are absolutely inert again just like if it was without IRAI. I mean stationary, hydrophones on, pinging and everything, doing nothing. Loaded the game again and tried again and destroyers are only shining at me, can be surfaced or submerged, get no fire from them. However I did take a heavy fire from the capital ship when surfaced and close.

Just to conclude my findings if it's going to be any help for your awsome work (I mean all the modders now). I'm using MMM where IRAI is included, I just applied OHII patch 1.2. Should I start new career to make this change function properly? But I think it's definitely going somewhere because before this patch no way I could spot/approach/attack/observe the capital ship. Then I escaped Scapa with objective accomplished (full bar on "Sink one capital ship at Scapa flow").

At least the CTDs are gone from within Scapa.

The other CTD may have been random. I've noticed those, and they usually resolve themselves. The last one I had was a bit more of a bother, though.

I was coming home from Scapa and, all of a sudden while getting closer to the canal entrance near Wilhelmshaven, off the coast of Denmark, I CTD'd. So I reloaded the most recent save, which was an auto-save, and it CTD'd as it was loaded. Went back to the last of my own saves and everything was OK. I think what happened was that the auto-saves just jump in and save whenever, and I was running TC in an area with a lot going on (low FPS), whereas my own saves are usually from TC1. I think sometimes the game, when attempting to save when the CPU is too busy, creates problems.

Anyway... The passive destroyers in Scapa after your attack I can't speak to as I was in a hurry to leave after I fired my salvo so I didn't stick around. I suppose it could be because of the disabling/enabling mods while on patrol which has been known to cause strange issues even when it shouldn't.

[Trevally.]

Thanks for the feedback guys

If anyone else is playing the first campaign with the new hotfix installed - please let us know how attacking the BBs in scapa works

[Trevally.]

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

that's what I needed to know I'll work on this addition to the app tonight.

Thanks TDW

[Trevally.]

There have been a few post lately about flotilla requests.

In SH5 the flotilla request option is there, but it looks different than the other SH games. With SH5 this flotillas are selected by the player in the campaign screen.



The above is the campaign screen from OHIIv1.9 and where you can select the next campaign - this also sets the flotilla.

I can change this page to make more info about the flotillas as well as the campaign that that flotilla would set for you.

If anyone has any suggestions about how this page should look or the flotilla information given - please post

[lmy76128]

thank you, thank you for all mod
keep working for better mod

[lmy76128]

i installed this mod again but i cant play game with this mod
i just started first campaign but i crashed to window
what's the problem?
please some help me ... please
i just wait for all help
thank you for reading my reqeust
have a nice day !!

[Trevally.]

Originally Posted by lmy76128

i installed this mod again but i cant play game with this mod
i just started first campaign but i crashed to window
what's the problem?
please some help me ... please
i just wait for all help
thank you for reading my reqeust
have a nice day !!

Write here what mods you have installed and the order

[Swat]

Now it seems I got rid of the ctd during the approach from southeast. But again I do get ctd inside Scapa. And the error log always says that fault module is SHSim.act. Can anyone advise what does SHSim.act do please?

[lmy76128]

Originally Posted by Trevally.

Write here what mods you have installed and the order

just installed open horizon2 v1.8
i had no problem before..