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andy_311 · 06-09-06, 06:58 PM

Am just pondering because something not right(well I don't think so) I got GW on 2pc's and a LT V1.0 got the updates for it but just haven't the time to instal them.
Just a couple of questions! 1 or 3 perhaps it's the way I installed it but here goes,.
Q1 You start a career in 39 and progress Germany goes through Europe takes over all the ports eventually. Thats fine no probs with that as the war progreses more port are taken over,but on my map St Lou,Reames,Nameas,Paris, all these are showing that they are in enemy control which I don't understand.
Q2 Neutral Counties: Perhaps am taking modern philosiphy to the extemes here but if aircraft being "foriegn"(Ie being the RAFor USAAF) overflying a netural country would be shot down by that country?(after protests etc) but this game does not allow for such incursions.
I love this game to bits but there must be a way to make it more realistic,maybe the game is hardcoded and it won't let you,or it just cheats to make end ways..
Am no modder but there must be a way resolve these issues.

bigboywooly · 06-09-06, 07:51 PM

Cant answer the cities bit yet till I play game again but there werent that many neutral countries during ww2
France was in at the start with Britain so most flights would have gone over France to Germany
By early 1940 most of europe was under german control so any flights out of Britain would have been over the war zone anyway
While there were a couple of neutral countries left no doubt flights did stray in their airspace from time to time and no doubt they complained but most of Europe at the time was in fear
Apart from the German western offensive there was the Russian/Finland war with Russia being a member of the Axis along with Bulgaria, Croatia, Hungary, Romania & Slovakia as well as Italy so by the time you add in the countries under German control there werent that many neutral countries to fly overand by the end of 1940 the vast majority was under the jackboot ( map is 1942 but Europe pretty much the same from August 40 except for Russia joining the allies in 41)

Trouble with the game is the engine is too rigid - If Neutral countries were to open fire on aircraft in their airspace they would have to be classed as an enemy of that country to do so and that would lead to neutral shipping showing up as an enemy

andy_311 · 06-09-06, 08:02 PM

The country I had in mind was Spain.

bigboywooly · 06-09-06, 08:40 PM

well Spain was pro German which was no secret to the British

Wulfmann · 06-09-06, 09:44 PM

Yes but many cities are wrong. Paris is neutral in Jan 1944. Arnheim is enemy (red) in Jan 1944. many cities in occupied Europe are green and in April 1945 much of Poland is still blue when it was over run by the Soviets. Does not change game play just replying.
However, when I transfer to Bergen in August 44 every time I start a new patrol it says base changed to St Nazaire which is under enemy control at this point.

Wulfmann

06-09-06, 06:58 PM	#1
andy_311 The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Oldham, Lancs,England Posts: 1,312 Downloads: 82 Uploads: 0	For the Grey Wolfs Guys. Am just pondering because something not right(well I don't think so) I got GW on 2pc's and a LT V1.0 got the updates for it but just haven't the time to instal them. Just a couple of questions! 1 or 3 perhaps it's the way I installed it but here goes,. Q1 You start a career in 39 and progress Germany goes through Europe takes over all the ports eventually. Thats fine no probs with that as the war progreses more port are taken over,but on my map St Lou,Reames,Nameas,Paris, all these are showing that they are in enemy control which I don't understand. Q2 Neutral Counties: Perhaps am taking modern philosiphy to the extemes here but if aircraft being "foriegn"(Ie being the RAFor USAAF) overflying a netural country would be shot down by that country?(after protests etc) but this game does not allow for such incursions. I love this game to bits but there must be a way to make it more realistic,maybe the game is hardcoded and it won't let you,or it just cheats to make end ways.. Am no modder but there must be a way resolve these issues.

06-09-06, 07:51 PM	#2
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Cant answer the cities bit yet till I play game again but there werent that many neutral countries during ww2 France was in at the start with Britain so most flights would have gone over France to Germany By early 1940 most of europe was under german control so any flights out of Britain would have been over the war zone anyway While there were a couple of neutral countries left no doubt flights did stray in their airspace from time to time and no doubt they complained but most of Europe at the time was in fear Apart from the German western offensive there was the Russian/Finland war with Russia being a member of the Axis along with Bulgaria, Croatia, Hungary, Romania & Slovakia as well as Italy so by the time you add in the countries under German control there werent that many neutral countries to fly overand by the end of 1940 the vast majority was under the jackboot ( map is 1942 but Europe pretty much the same from August 40 except for Russia joining the allies in 41) Trouble with the game is the engine is too rigid - If Neutral countries were to open fire on aircraft in their airspace they would have to be classed as an enemy of that country to do so and that would lead to neutral shipping showing up as an enemy __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

06-09-06, 08:40 PM	#4
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	well Spain was pro German which was no secret to the British __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

06-09-06, 09:44 PM	#5
Wulfmann Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 1,010 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Yes but many cities are wrong. Paris is neutral in Jan 1944. Arnheim is enemy (red) in Jan 1944. many cities in occupied Europe are green and in April 1945 much of Poland is still blue when it was over run by the Soviets. Does not change game play just replying. However, when I transfer to Bergen in August 44 every time I start a new patrol it says base changed to St Nazaire which is under enemy control at this point. Wulfmann __________________ "The right to keep and bear arms should not be infringed upon, if only to prevent tyranny in government" Thomas Jefferson,; Constitutional debates

06-09-06, 08:02 PM	#3
andy_311 The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Oldham, Lancs,England Posts: 1,312 Downloads: 82 Uploads: 0	The country I had in mind was Spain.