Go Wafa Sultan!

TLAM Strike · 03-17-06, 10:44 PM

It takes some serousâ€¦ Iâ€™ll say guts to say this on Al-Jazeera:

http://www.memritv.org/Transcript.asp?P1=1050
Video: http://www.memritv.org/search.asp?ACT=S9&P1=1050

Ducimus · 03-17-06, 11:14 PM

I would not be suprpised if, 1 to 6 months hence, i find a BBC article about Wafa Sultan lying dead in the streets, and yet another nutjob yelling "allah akba!" (however you spell it) as the local police cart him off in a squadcar.

Iceman · 03-17-06, 11:14 PM

Avon Lady posted this a while back...great vid.

TLAM Strike · 03-17-06, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Iceman

Avon Lady posted this a while back...

I should have guessed!

Sixpack · 03-18-06, 01:45 AM

He has fallen victim to the 'spreading democracy and liberty all over the globe' propaganda machine, or paid top dollar plus government protection.

In short, the guy is a bit of a slime.

That's no way to talk about one's own people, to indiscriminately flush it as backward and barbaric !

Like I stated in another thread: Plenty of backward, non-democratic aspects and undignifying stuff going on in western societies (sadly).

Sixpack · 03-18-06, 01:49 AM

Wafa Sultan: You can say whatever you like. I am a secular human being who does not believe in the supernatural...

I stopped reading right there as not to waste more time on his little opinions which bare no relevance on a broader scale.

TteFAboB · 03-18-06, 06:48 AM

She's not talking about Arabs, she's talking about Muslims. Muslims aren't "one's own people", Muslims are many people in many places, and like it or not, they are in the process of learning a lesson, like the one Europe had to learn centuries ago, so Islam is fighting for its own existence against modernity, fighting against the birth of a new Islam, that same Islam of the peacefull, harmonious Iranian Muslim who wants to choose if he can drink or not.

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Wafa Sultan: You can say whatever you like. I am a secular human being who does not believe in the supernatural...

You haven't read further so you didn't noticed, but Dr. Slime disquilified her for saying that sentence. She said that because in Islam there is only one unforgivable sin, disbelief. Thus she gives a message you can live without believing in Islam, the Sky doesn't fall upon her head, she still breathes, Allah doesn't care at all at this nonbeliever.

One of the problems modern Muslims have to face is what to do with Islam in order to be able to live in harmony next to infidels, they have to go through their own personal reform of Islam, or go atheist. http://www.apostatesofislam.com/, some go atheist, some don't. But don't underestimate how hard it is to surrender Islam, do not doubt of its power, Islam isn't like any Christian or Bhuddist sect, in some regards it is closer to Judaism, and look how far Jews have come to be able to understand you don't throw stones at prostitutes.

Skybird · 03-18-06, 06:50 AM

Hehe, a week ago or so I thought about bringing up these two and a third snippet of Wafa Sultan myself...

Good to know that now I have TLAM for that

I hope she (W.S.) don't get struck.

Sixpack · 03-18-06, 07:02 AM

Disbelievers may live well on sinful Earth. Creator gave human 'beings' plenty of freedom.

The mortals will learn the truth (primarily about themselves) in the hereafter...

That I am sure of.

Faithful moderate muslims will never abandon their old faith to become an arrogant self-righteous non-believer like she is an example of.

And if some would, they'll eventually end up a hedonist confused bunch just like modern Westerners (and that includes you and me

)

Fish · 03-18-06, 10:32 AM

She is a brave lady!

Sixpack · 03-18-06, 02:33 PM

Skybird · 03-18-06, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sixpack

Wafa Sultan: You can say whatever you like. I am a secular human being who does not believe in the supernatural...

I stopped reading right there as not to waste more time on his little opinions which bare no relevance on a broader scale.

The He" is a "She". That comes from reading too much funny books

Fish · 03-18-06, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sixpack

I am one (atheist). I don't believe in religion, and can't answer the question if there is something/someone out there, in or outside the universe, who have some sort of control.

Spoon 11th · 03-18-06, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sixpack

includes you and me

)

Hey assmonkey, don't call me a confused hedonist.

TLAM Strike · 03-18-06, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Spoon 11th

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sixpack

includes you and me

)

Hey assmonkey, don't call me a confused hedonist.

Yea don't call me confused! :P

03-17-06, 10:44 PM	#1
TLAM Strike Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 8,633 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 6	Go Wafa Sultan! It takes some serousâ€¦ Iâ€™ll say guts to say this on Al-Jazeera: http://www.memritv.org/Transcript.asp?P1=1050 Video: http://www.memritv.org/search.asp?ACT=S9&P1=1050 __________________

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Sixpack Samurai Navy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: below North Sea level (iow Holland) Posts: 592 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	He has fallen victim to the 'spreading democracy and liberty all over the globe' propaganda machine, or paid top dollar plus government protection. In short, the guy is a bit of a slime. That's no way to talk about one's own people, to indiscriminately flush it as backward and barbaric ! Like I stated in another thread: Plenty of backward, non-democratic aspects and undignifying stuff going on in western societies (sadly). __________________ \"Navigare necesse est, vivere non est necesse\"

03-18-06, 01:49 AM	#6
Sixpack Samurai Navy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: below North Sea level (iow Holland) Posts: 592 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Wafa Sultan: You can say whatever you like. I am a secular human being who does not believe in the supernatural... I stopped reading right there as not to waste more time on his little opinions which bare no relevance on a broader scale. __________________ \"Navigare necesse est, vivere non est necesse\"

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Hehe, a week ago or so I thought about bringing up these two and a third snippet of Wafa Sultan myself... Good to know that now I have TLAM for that I hope she (W.S.) don't get struck. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

03-18-06, 07:02 AM	#9
Sixpack Samurai Navy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: below North Sea level (iow Holland) Posts: 592 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Disbelievers may live well on sinful Earth. Creator gave human 'beings' plenty of freedom. The mortals will learn the truth (primarily about themselves) in the hereafter... That I am sure of. Faithful moderate muslims will never abandon their old faith to become an arrogant self-righteous non-believer like she is an example of. And if some would, they'll eventually end up a hedonist confused bunch just like modern Westerners (and that includes you and me ) __________________ \"Navigare necesse est, vivere non est necesse\"

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Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	I would not be suprpised if, 1 to 6 months hence, i find a BBC article about Wafa Sultan lying dead in the streets, and yet another nutjob yelling "allah akba!" (however you spell it) as the local police cart him off in a squadcar.

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Iceman Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mesa AZ, Arizona, USA Posts: 1,253 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Avon Lady posted this a while back...great vid.

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Fish Eternal Patrol Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,923 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	She is a brave lady!

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Sixpack Samurai Navy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: below North Sea level (iow Holland) Posts: 592 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	__________________ \"Navigare necesse est, vivere non est necesse\"