List of BBs attacked by ger subs in WWII

chris911 · 10-20-05, 01:43 PM

brit. :
Malaya U106
Barham U30 later U331 sunk
Royal Oak U47sunk
Courageous Carrier U29 sunk
Nelson U56 later U31
Feel free to add other important ships like cruisers and carriers

deckard · 10-20-05, 02:02 PM

Warships of 4,000 tons and more sunk by German U-boats during the Second World War.

25 Nov, 1941 HMS Barham (04) (31.100 tons)
a battleship sunk by U-331 (Tiesenhausen)

14 Oct, 1939 HMS Royal Oak (08) (29.150 tons)
a battleship sunk by U-47 (Prien)

13 Nov, 1941 HMS Ark Royal (91) (22.600 tons)
an aircraft carrier sunk by U-81 (Guggenberger)

11 Aug, 1942 HMS Eagle (94) (22.600 tons)
an aircraft carrier sunk by U-73 (Rosenbaum)

17 Sep, 1939 HMS Courageous (50) (22.500 tons)
an aircraft carrier sunk by U-29 (Schuhart)

15 Nov, 1942 HMS Avenger (D 14) (13.785 tons)
a escort carrier sunk by U-155 (Piening)

21 Dec, 1941 HMS Audacity (D 10) (11.000 tons)
a escort carrier sunk by U-751 (Bigalk)

29 May, 1944 USS Block Island (CVE 21) (9.393 tons)
a escort carrier sunk by U-549 (Krankenhagen)

11 Mar, 1942 HMS Naiad (93) (5.450 tons)
a light cruiser sunk by U-565 (Jebsen)

16 Jun, 1942 HMS Hermione (74) (5.450 tons)
a Light cruiser sunk by U-205 (Reschke)

18 Feb, 1944 HMS Penelope (97) (5.270 tons)
a light cruiser sunk by U-410 (Fenski)

15 Dec, 1941 HMS Galatea (71) (5.220 tons)
a light cruiser sunk by U-557 (Paulshen)

24 Nov, 1941 HMS Dunedin (I 93) (4.850 tons)
a light cruiser sunk by U-124 (Mohr)

(source, uboat.net)

Letum · 10-20-05, 04:51 PM

how common where DD sinkings?

chris911 · 10-20-05, 05:03 PM

I think its not so uncommon but the major problem is there are not so good informations about such small vessels

10-20-05, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris911

... the major problem is there are not so good informations about such small vessels

Not quite correct, uboat.net have that info although not in a table format, at least not on the free part of the site.
But they have it listed here under the diffrent classes.
http://www.uboat.net/allies/ships/escorts.htm

Scared Bunny · 10-22-05, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Letum

how common where DD sinkings?

Quite uncommon.

This is from Uboat.net

28 Corvettes
5 Destroyer Escorts
19 Frigates
3 Escort Carriers (also mentioned in a post above)
5 Sloops
16 Trawlers
? Cutters (they patroled the US coasts, but looking at the reports U-boats must have only sink a handfull)

That is 73 small ships. That is 0.063 small warship per U-boat. 175 ships between 500 and 2000 tons got shot at and hit by U-boats.

It would seem that it was common practice not to engage small warships.

oRGy · 10-22-05, 08:06 AM

Not quite. There were quite a lot of attacks against warships especially earlier in the war e.g. during the Norwegian campaign.

Unfortunately torpedo problems were so dire that the RN escaped many times. If torpedoes had been working correctly, half the British fleet would have been sunk around Norway and the North Sea.

Irishreds radiolog contains a lot of these sort of reports and information, it's quite interesting.

Also, in 1941/2 (I think) BdU issued orders that convoy escorts be engaged as priority targets, which is interesting.

chris911 · 10-22-05, 09:42 AM

I think in early days of war there were special orders by the ger navy .till 42 there was the order only to attack if u must to. Remember the Bismark she crippelt the PoW to a point where only one of the ten main guns was working and than left to go for merchant man cause the commanding admiral didn t want to waste the ammu on a battleship.

TLAM Strike · 10-22-05, 02:45 PM

Also worth noting if just for comparison:
HIJMS Kongo Battleship 36,600 tons 21 November 1944 by USS Sealion

HIJMS SHOKAKU 32,000 tons CV June 1944 by USS Cavalla

HIJMS TAIYO CVE 18115 tons USS Rasher, 18.7.1944

HIJMS UNYO CVE 18115 tons USS Barb - 16.9.1944

HIJMS CHUYO CVE 18115 tons USS Sailfish, 4.12.1943

HIJMS Shinano CV(E?) 71,890 tons Nov 44 by USS Archerfish

HIJMS UNRYU CVE 22,400 tons Dec 44 by USS Redfish

HIJMS SHINYO CVE 20,000 tons Nov 44 by USS Spadfish

HIJMS AKITSU MARU CVE 11,980 tons Jan 44 by USS Hake

HIJMS Nigicu Maru CVE 11,980 tons Nov 44 by USS Queenfish

USS Yorktown CV 19,800 tons June 1944 (Midway) by I-158

USS Wasp CV 14,700 tons September 1942 by I-19

Plus some Escort Carriers I've forgotten...

10-20-05, 01:43 PM	#1
chris911 Chief Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 312 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	List of BBs attacked by ger subs in WWII brit. : Malaya U106 Barham U30 later U331 sunk Royal Oak U47sunk Courageous Carrier U29 sunk Nelson U56 later U31 Feel free to add other important ships like cruisers and carriers

10-20-05, 04:51 PM	#3
Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	how common where DD sinkings? __________________

10-22-05, 02:45 PM	#9
TLAM Strike Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 8,633 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 6	Also worth noting if just for comparison: HIJMS Kongo Battleship 36,600 tons 21 November 1944 by USS Sealion HIJMS SHOKAKU 32,000 tons CV June 1944 by USS Cavalla HIJMS TAIYO CVE 18115 tons USS Rasher, 18.7.1944 HIJMS UNYO CVE 18115 tons USS Barb - 16.9.1944 HIJMS CHUYO CVE 18115 tons USS Sailfish, 4.12.1943 HIJMS Shinano CV(E?) 71,890 tons Nov 44 by USS Archerfish HIJMS UNRYU CVE 22,400 tons Dec 44 by USS Redfish HIJMS SHINYO CVE 20,000 tons Nov 44 by USS Spadfish HIJMS AKITSU MARU CVE 11,980 tons Jan 44 by USS Hake HIJMS Nigicu Maru CVE 11,980 tons Nov 44 by USS Queenfish USS Yorktown CV 19,800 tons June 1944 (Midway) by I-158 USS Wasp CV 14,700 tons September 1942 by I-19 Plus some Escort Carriers I've forgotten... __________________

10-20-05, 02:02 PM	#2
deckard Sailor man Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 47 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Warships of 4,000 tons and more sunk by German U-boats during the Second World War. 25 Nov, 1941 HMS Barham (04) (31.100 tons) a battleship sunk by U-331 (Tiesenhausen) 14 Oct, 1939 HMS Royal Oak (08) (29.150 tons) a battleship sunk by U-47 (Prien) 13 Nov, 1941 HMS Ark Royal (91) (22.600 tons) an aircraft carrier sunk by U-81 (Guggenberger) 11 Aug, 1942 HMS Eagle (94) (22.600 tons) an aircraft carrier sunk by U-73 (Rosenbaum) 17 Sep, 1939 HMS Courageous (50) (22.500 tons) an aircraft carrier sunk by U-29 (Schuhart) 15 Nov, 1942 HMS Avenger (D 14) (13.785 tons) a escort carrier sunk by U-155 (Piening) 21 Dec, 1941 HMS Audacity (D 10) (11.000 tons) a escort carrier sunk by U-751 (Bigalk) 29 May, 1944 USS Block Island (CVE 21) (9.393 tons) a escort carrier sunk by U-549 (Krankenhagen) 11 Mar, 1942 HMS Naiad (93) (5.450 tons) a light cruiser sunk by U-565 (Jebsen) 16 Jun, 1942 HMS Hermione (74) (5.450 tons) a Light cruiser sunk by U-205 (Reschke) 18 Feb, 1944 HMS Penelope (97) (5.270 tons) a light cruiser sunk by U-410 (Fenski) 15 Dec, 1941 HMS Galatea (71) (5.220 tons) a light cruiser sunk by U-557 (Paulshen) 24 Nov, 1941 HMS Dunedin (I 93) (4.850 tons) a light cruiser sunk by U-124 (Mohr) (source, uboat.net)

10-20-05, 05:03 PM	#4
chris911 Chief Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 312 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I think its not so uncommon but the major problem is there are not so good informations about such small vessels

10-22-05, 08:06 AM	#7
oRGy Crusty Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 648 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Not quite. There were quite a lot of attacks against warships especially earlier in the war e.g. during the Norwegian campaign. Unfortunately torpedo problems were so dire that the RN escaped many times. If torpedoes had been working correctly, half the British fleet would have been sunk around Norway and the North Sea. Irishreds radiolog contains a lot of these sort of reports and information, it's quite interesting. Also, in 1941/2 (I think) BdU issued orders that convoy escorts be engaged as priority targets, which is interesting.

10-22-05, 09:42 AM	#8
chris911 Chief Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 312 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I think in early days of war there were special orders by the ger navy .till 42 there was the order only to attack if u must to. Remember the Bismark she crippelt the PoW to a point where only one of the ten main guns was working and than left to go for merchant man cause the commanding admiral didn t want to waste the ammu on a battleship.