How can the UK do this sort of thing!!!

eddie · 02-06-16, 09:25 PM

Holding Assange as a prisoner then thumbing your nose at the UN!?! What is going on over there, are you mad? Have you gone off the deep end!?! Oh, the shame of it all.

If Churchill was alive today, what would he say about this horrible situation?

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/...ous/ar-BBpa9pT

Platapus · 02-07-16, 08:03 AM

Tough to make the case that he is being detained when he can leave any time he wants to.

I was detained last night when I choose not to attend some corporate function and instead stayed inside where it was warm and played video games.

Where is my compensation?

u crank · 02-07-16, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Where is my compensation?

If you fill out the proper paperwork, send money, get a haircut and wash my car you may get compensation.

Aktungbby · 02-07-16, 11:12 AM

He's sitting in that embassy listening to 'summertime blues' and ''takin' his troubles to the United Nations'' ??!!

Jimbuna · 02-07-16, 11:22 AM

Does anyone take any notice of the UN theses days?

They should come to the realisation they only exist because of the generosity of one or two countries.

ikalugin · 02-08-16, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Does anyone take any notice of the UN theses days?

They should come to the realisation they only exist because of the generosity of one or two countries.

And this is sad, as the alliance system without nuclear deterence element is inherently unstable.

02-08-16, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ikalugin

And this is sad, as the alliance system without nuclear deterence element is inherently unstable.

You think arming the UN with nuclear weapons would be a good thing?

Tchocky · 02-08-16, 07:30 AM

He's wanted for questioning in Sweden. He refused to comply with bail conditions set by UK courts under a valid European Arrest Warrant. The violation of these conditions means he's liable to be arrested on UK soil.
To avoid this he fled to the Ecuadorian embassy - where he is protected from arrest by the Vienna Convention.

Arbitrary detention this is not.

Zero sympathy.

Jimbuna · 02-08-16, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky

He's wanted for questioning in Sweden. He refused to comply with bail conditions set by UK courts under a valid European Arrest Warrant. The violation of these conditions means he's liable to be arrested on UK soil.
To avoid this he fled to the Ecuadorian embassy - where he is protected from arrest by the Vienna Convention.

Arbitrary detention this is not.

Zero sympathy.

Precisely.

vienna · 02-08-16, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by eddie

...If Churchill was alive today, what would he say about this horrible situation?

He'd probably set in motion a scheme to extract Assange from the embassy while imposing an economic blockade/sanctions on the Ecuadorian nation...

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Catfish · 02-08-16, 04:17 PM

Some people here seem to prefer a very simple state of mind, completely and maybe intentionally fading out certain aspects

Cybermat47 · 02-08-16, 04:18 PM

If he's innocent, he has nothing to hide from the Swedish authorities.

vienna · 02-08-16, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cybermat47

If he's innocent, he has nothing to hide from the Swedish authorities.

Exactly. His claim the Swedes will turn him over to the US is rather a bit overblown; at this stage, the last thing the US would do is seize Assange with the whole world watching. If anything, the US would let Sweden have their go at Assange and, once that's over, with the passage of time and attention to his "plight", maybe then ask the Swedes to hand him over, if the US still wants him. Consider this: say Assange goes back and faces the charges, is tried and found guilty of the sexually based crimes; how do you think that will impact his base of support? I think Assange is afraid not only of the US getting their hands on him, he's afraid of what a sex-crime conviction will do to his support from sympathizers down the road...

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mapuc · 02-08-16, 04:58 PM

A little information about the Swedish Justice system

A prosecutor can detain a suspect for 5 days either in isolation or ordinary arrest before the suspect must be brought before a judge

a Defense attorney will first get the paper, when the prosecutor has done his job, sometimes the suspects defense attorney get the paper after 2 to 3 day after the arrest(do not know the exact processing regarding this)

The suspect will be offered a defense before the first interrogation
(I don't know how many takes this offer and how many refuse or say it is not necessary etc)

Markus

eddie · 02-08-16, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by vienna

He'd probably set in motion a scheme to extract Assange from the embassy while imposing an economic blockade/sanctions on the Ecuadorian nation...

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02-06-16, 09:25 PM	#1
eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	How can the UK do this sort of thing!!! Holding Assange as a prisoner then thumbing your nose at the UN!?! What is going on over there, are you mad? Have you gone off the deep end!?! Oh, the shame of it all. If Churchill was alive today, what would he say about this horrible situation? http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/...ous/ar-BBpa9pT __________________ Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I'm kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me. Al Capone

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,360 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Tough to make the case that he is being detained when he can leave any time he wants to. I was detained last night when I choose not to attend some corporate function and instead stayed inside where it was warm and played video games. Where is my compensation? __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 29,981 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	He's sitting in that embassy listening to 'summertime blues' and ''takin' his troubles to the United Nations'' ??!! __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!!

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,473 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Does anyone take any notice of the UN theses days? They should come to the realisation they only exist because of the generosity of one or two countries. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	He's wanted for questioning in Sweden. He refused to comply with bail conditions set by UK courts under a valid European Arrest Warrant. The violation of these conditions means he's liable to be arrested on UK soil. To avoid this he fled to the Ecuadorian embassy - where he is protected from arrest by the Vienna Convention. Arbitrary detention this is not. Zero sympathy. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,535 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	A little information about the Swedish Justice system A prosecutor can detain a suspect for 5 days either in isolation or ordinary arrest before the suspect must be brought before a judge a Defense attorney will first get the paper, when the prosecutor has done his job, sometimes the suspects defense attorney get the paper after 2 to 3 day after the arrest(do not know the exact processing regarding this) The suspect will be offered a defense before the first interrogation (I don't know how many takes this offer and how many refuse or say it is not necessary etc) Markus