Russian Spy Ship

podunkpete · 02-17-17, 06:04 PM

Having been in NAVSECGRU working for the DIA, why is this being blown out of proportion? Spy ships routinely cruised the coast. Advances relegated the ships near obsolete, in fact the job at one point defaulted to the Polish "fishing fleet." Their radios were so bad messages were relayed through Havana radio so they could reach Russia. This is a political move, pure and simple, but I have to wonder why the media is going berserk. Do they have anyone to do research anymore? How sad that the U.S. does not have a fact based news reporting organization anymore. Please give me just facts with no intro or slant trying to mold my opinion. I'm old school and capable of drawing my own conclusions. One plus to this cruise, however, is the ability to "spy" on this ship and see if in fact the Russians are using new technology or simply sailing an old ship along the coast to cause a ruckus. What next, a "rediscovery" of shipping containers from foreign nations full of radio gear being driven past critical defense bases?

Tango589 · 02-17-17, 06:52 PM

Any chance of a good link?

Buddahaid · 02-17-17, 06:57 PM

Shhhh! They're invisible....

Tango589 · 02-17-17, 08:29 PM

Gargamel · 02-18-17, 12:11 AM

I'm assuming he's referring to the one recently seen in international waters off the coast near Groton. The one Trump threatened to blow out of the water.

Buddahaid · 02-18-17, 12:27 AM

I've no idea, but the thought of a craft of significance inside territorial waters being news laughable.

Aktungbby · 02-18-17, 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tango589

Any chance of a good link?

http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-groton-sub-base-20170215-story.html

Quote:

Retired Cmdr. David Candler, who spent his career serving on and commanding submarines in Groton, agreed.
"I wouldn't make a mountain out of a molehill," Candler said. "It's a ship, but it's not the Great White Fleet. And it is not uncommon for all kinds of ships from all kinds of places to be all over the world. A military ship up here all by itself is kind of unusual. But these kinds of ships — and we do the same thing — go all over the place to stay reasonably accustomed to the waters."

Business as usual.

ikalugin · 02-18-17, 06:21 AM

If the ship was correctly identified here:
http://www.courant.com/news/connecti...215-story.html
Then it was accepted into service back in 1988 and was indeed built in Poland. Atleast one of the ships in that class did receive electronics refit in 2008 but not the specific ship identified. In my opinion they are just blowing the regular recon patrol out of proportion. I mean for all we know it could have been regular patrol related to new-START treaty.

Oberon · 02-18-17, 07:05 AM

Nyet, is just trawler...

Crew likes to listen to radio, hence big aerials, nothing to see here.

ikalugin · 02-18-17, 07:27 AM

I mean we have newer ships in that role.

Jimbuna · 02-18-17, 07:35 AM

Much ado about nothing.

Oberon · 02-18-17, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ikalugin

I mean we have newer ships in that role.

The trawler ones always made me chuckle, I mean they even came with torpedoes!

Jimbuna · 02-18-17, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oberon

The trawler ones always made me chuckle, I mean they even came with torpedoes!

I remember the one with the towed array that was 'conquered'

ikalugin · 02-18-17, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oberon

The trawler ones always made me chuckle, I mean they even came with torpedoes!

We called Grad launchers under Damansky "farming equipment" which lead to a humorous poem:

MaDef · 02-18-17, 11:25 AM

Used to see AGI's on a consistent basis off of Delmarva Peninsula monitoring traffic in and out of Norfolk & Little Creek all during the 80's. Those white domes were pretty distinctive.

02-17-17, 06:04 PM	#1
podunkpete Sailor man Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Sub Capital of the World - Grotn Ct USA Posts: 47 Downloads: 189 Uploads: 0	Russian Spy Ship Having been in NAVSECGRU working for the DIA, why is this being blown out of proportion? Spy ships routinely cruised the coast. Advances relegated the ships near obsolete, in fact the job at one point defaulted to the Polish "fishing fleet." Their radios were so bad messages were relayed through Havana radio so they could reach Russia. This is a political move, pure and simple, but I have to wonder why the media is going berserk. Do they have anyone to do research anymore? How sad that the U.S. does not have a fact based news reporting organization anymore. Please give me just facts with no intro or slant trying to mold my opinion. I'm old school and capable of drawing my own conclusions. One plus to this cruise, however, is the ability to "spy" on this ship and see if in fact the Russians are using new technology or simply sailing an old ship along the coast to cause a ruckus. What next, a "rediscovery" of shipping containers from foreign nations full of radio gear being driven past critical defense bases?

02-17-17, 06:52 PM	#2
Tango589 Still crazy as ever! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: A little south of sanity Posts: 3,375 Downloads: 180 Uploads: 1	Any chance of a good link? __________________ Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way...

02-17-17, 06:57 PM	#3
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,319 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	Shhhh! They're invisible.... __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

02-17-17, 08:29 PM	#4
Tango589 Still crazy as ever! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: A little south of sanity Posts: 3,375 Downloads: 180 Uploads: 1	__________________ Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way...

02-18-17, 12:11 AM	#5
Gargamel Lucky Sailor Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Rome Posts: 4,273 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	I'm assuming he's referring to the one recently seen in international waters off the coast near Groton. The one Trump threatened to blow out of the water. __________________ Luck is a residue of Design.

02-18-17, 12:27 AM	#6
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,319 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	I've no idea, but the thought of a craft of significance inside territorial waters being news laughable. __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

02-18-17, 06:21 AM	#8
ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	If the ship was correctly identified here: http://www.courant.com/news/connecti...215-story.html Then it was accepted into service back in 1988 and was indeed built in Poland. Atleast one of the ships in that class did receive electronics refit in 2008 but not the specific ship identified. In my opinion they are just blowing the regular recon patrol out of proportion. I mean for all we know it could have been regular patrol related to new-START treaty. __________________ Grumpy as always.

02-18-17, 07:05 AM	#9
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Nyet, is just trawler... Crew likes to listen to radio, hence big aerials, nothing to see here.

02-18-17, 07:27 AM	#10
ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	I mean we have newer ships in that role. __________________ Grumpy as always.

02-18-17, 07:35 AM	#11
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,473 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Much ado about nothing. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

02-18-17, 11:25 AM	#15
MaDef Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,194 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Used to see AGI's on a consistent basis off of Delmarva Peninsula monitoring traffic in and out of Norfolk & Little Creek all during the 80's. Those white domes were pretty distinctive.