Ahoy!...and a question

12-17-14, 10:39 PM

Hi All,

What a great forum and community. Tonnage of information for sure ;-).

New to SH3 here and I am really loving the game. Just completed my first patrol in a type VIIB/1940 and no crash dives yet - but I know the pain is coming!

One thing I find a bit challenging in the game is crew management. Any tips on keeping my Sub-Lieutenants at their stations consistently? Short of remembering their names and their default posts it has been difficult to keep them at the same station. They eventually need sleep and I invariably forget where they were originally stationed once rested. I assume that keeping them at a single station as much as possible will result in faster "experience" points? or does this not matter?

Some other questions:

When awarding medals - is it better to spread them among the crew or stack one particular person up?

I can't seem to get the hydrophone working and the sonar officer rarely reports any sound contacts, even when I know there are vessels in the vicinity. Will these come with a later sub or as a sub upgrade?

Finally, is there an easier way to see the flags of the other ships at a distance? Even at 6x zoom on the periscope I sometimes have a hard time figuring out if they are neutral or foe?

thanks for any advice.

Aktungbby · 12-17-14, 10:50 PM

Riversub!

Aras · 12-18-14, 12:14 AM

Welcome to SUBSIM.

One of the mod I can suggest you is H.sie's Hardcoded Fixes if you haven't tried that. One of the mod's option is send automatically your Watch Officer back to the conning tower after your uboot surfaces.

If you are tired to manage your crew, I can suggest you to use SH3 Commander to set the fatigue either to "no fatigue" or there are a couple of different fatigue models. There is a post in this forum whatever is a job for the Captain to manage each crew one by one or not. Both sides have strong arguments. For me, I go with GWX 8 Hours Fatigue Model, It adds dimension to the game.

When I need to manage my officer I generally do this.

In case of no danger, I only man the Chief Officer and The Watch Officer. The other 2 officer are resting. One in the Stern Quarters and One in the Bow Quarters. When the officers on duty became to get tired I replace the one in the stern quarters with the Chief Officer and the one in the Bow Quarters with the Watch Officer. If you have more than 4 officers, and you don't have the space to rest them, try sending them to the compartments where they won't get tired compared to the other departments.

Repair and Torpedo Rooms (even if there are no repair or torpedo loading/unloading) are the most tiring compartments if I don't remember wrong. The less tiring ones are Electric and Diesel Engine compartment I believe.

Nerazzurri · 12-18-14, 04:58 AM

Welcome RS.

Crew management is not for me and I select the no fatigue option in Commander - it's a 'gamey' option, but I'd rather that than be put off the game by micro management.

Hydrophones are one of the first upgrades you can get but I'm not sure of the details of how much more effective they are.

I often struggle with identifying flags too I'm looking forward to any tips from other captains.

Aras · 12-18-14, 05:16 AM

The flag identification becomes harder if you are far then 1500 meters to the target. Its harder in late war since you won't get that close to a convoy. However if they are sailing with the a convoy, then its definitely a target for you.

For single merchants, if they are in enemy control waters, the odds are high that it is safe to sink them.

u crank · 12-18-14, 05:37 AM

Welcome to SubSim Riversub.

Jimbuna · 12-18-14, 08:41 AM

Welcome to SubSim

Raptor · 12-18-14, 10:34 AM

Use Notepad or some other text editor to manually edit this file: C:/Ubisoft/Data/Cfg/Basic.cfg

Scroll down about 1/3 of the file to [FATIGUE_COEF]

Replace all positive values with zero. Leave all negative values (only in comp 6 and comp 7) untouched.

This removes fatigue from the game so you don't have to spend a lot of time on crew management.

Here's the complete cut-and-paste edit:

[FATIGUE_COEF]
;comp0 tower
RegularFactor00=0.00
SpecificFactor00=0.0
BadWeather0=0.0

;comp1 sonar/radio
RegularFactor10=0.00
RegularFactor11=0.00
SpecificFactor10=0.0
SpecificFactor11=0.0
BadWeather1=0.00

;comp2 command room
RegularFactor20=0.00
RegularFactor21=0.00
SpecificFactor20=0.0
SpecificFactor21=0.0
BadWeather2=0.00

;comp3 diesel
RegularFactor30=0.00
RegularFactor31=0.00
SpecificFactor30=0.0
SpecificFactor31=0.000
BadWeather3=0.0

;comp4 electric
RegularFactor40=0.00
RegularFactor41=0.00
SpecificFactor40=0.000
SpecificFactor41=0.0
BadWeather4=0.00

;comp5 bow torp
RegularFactor50=0.00
RegularFactor51=0.00
SpecificFactor50=0.0
SpecificFactor51=0.0
BadWeather5=0.0

;comp6 bow rest
SpecificFactor60=-0.0000003
SpecificFactor61=-0.0000003

;comp7 stern rest
SpecificFactor70=-0.0000003
SpecificFactor71=-0.0000003

;comp8 stern torp
RegularFactor80=0.00
RegularFactor81=0.00
SpecificFactor80=0.0
SpecificFactor81=0.0
BadWeather8=0.0

;comp9 deckgun
RegularFactor90=0.00
SpecificFactor90=0.0
BadWeather9=0.0

;comp10 flak
RegularFactor100=0.00
SpecificFactor100=0.0
BadWeather10=0.0

;comp 11 repair station
RegularFactor110=0.00
RegularFactor111=0.00
SpecificFactor110=0.0
SpecificFactor111=0.0
BadWeather11=0

No one ever gets tired ( no more ! ) on patrol. Work them non-stop. They won't complain.

12-18-14, 11:03 AM

Thanks for the warm welcome and good advice! Will disable fatigue in the game and give it a go. The crew can handle it :-).

To quote a famous captain..."All you need is good people. Good people."

U-15 · 12-18-14, 04:20 PM

Welcome Riversub to a great community.

As regards flag identification, the GWX3 supermod increases the attack periscope magnification from the stock 6x to 10x.

ReallyDedPoet · 12-18-14, 05:11 PM

Welcome to SUBSIM

maillemaker · 12-19-14, 09:58 AM

Quote:

One thing I find a bit challenging in the game is crew management. Any tips on keeping my Sub-Lieutenants at their stations consistently? Short of remembering their names and their default posts it has been difficult to keep them at the same station. They eventually need sleep and I invariably forget where they were originally stationed once rested. I assume that keeping them at a single station as much as possible will result in faster "experience" points? or does this not matter?

I don't particularly care who mans a station, as long as the station is manned. If you double-click on a compartment, it will fully man it as long as there are people to man it. I do not use the various "diving stations, surface stations, etc." buttons down at the bottom right. As I recall there was a possible crash bug or something related to those anyway.

In Stock SH3 the only serious officer bug is the WO never goes up onto the bridge when you surface. You have to manually place him there unless you install the H.sie patch.

Quote:

When awarding medals - is it better to spread them among the crew or stack one particular person up?

Once your man gets the second-to-highest possible medal, he no longer fatigues. So I try to get my sonar/radio guys non-fatiguable first, then my officers, then my torpedomen, etc.

Some people turn off fatigue but to me building up an awesome crew is part of what makes you get a feeling of investing in them.

Quote:

I can't seem to get the hydrophone working and the sonar officer rarely reports any sound contacts, even when I know there are vessels in the vicinity. Will these come with a later sub or as a sub upgrade?

The more skill they have, the better they will operate. Though I find that there are still times even with the best crew that you will hear things manually that they don't report.

Steve

THEBERBSTER · 12-20-14, 08:18 PM

A warm welcome ‘Riversub’ to the Subsim family.

You will always find someone here to help you.

Link to my SH3 – SH4 – SH5 posts:

Step By Step Tutorials & How To Do It.

Also Included Are Some Useful Download Links

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=211804

You can use TDW’Generic File Patcher with STEAM see my Tutorial Post #125

Laufen zum Ziel · 01-01-15, 02:35 PM

Welcome aboard you have joined the best.

Pisces · 01-01-15, 03:03 PM

Welcome too!

For the hydrophone to work you need to be below 10 meters depth. It doesn't work above it. So you really should dive to periscope depth to make use of it. Also, the various models have deaf-zones at the rear due to the engine/prop. Some also on the bow. Anyway, if you listen yourself than you can pretty much hear everything upto 35 km radius. There is even a volume boost button on the device to help you a bit. Just click at the right place. (Aside from your the volume knob on speakers if you have them)

The AI crew make up their own mind though if they feel like reporting something. Sometimes they can be quite late. But deaf as a doornail they surely aren't. Even in the beginning. Unless you always go fast or at flank speed.

12-17-14, 10:50 PM	#2
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 29,987 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	welcome aboard! Riversub! __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!!

12-18-14, 12:14 AM	#3
Aras Helmsman Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Istanbul, Turkey Posts: 102 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 0	Welcome to SUBSIM. One of the mod I can suggest you is H.sie's Hardcoded Fixes if you haven't tried that. One of the mod's option is send automatically your Watch Officer back to the conning tower after your uboot surfaces. If you are tired to manage your crew, I can suggest you to use SH3 Commander to set the fatigue either to "no fatigue" or there are a couple of different fatigue models. There is a post in this forum whatever is a job for the Captain to manage each crew one by one or not. Both sides have strong arguments. For me, I go with GWX 8 Hours Fatigue Model, It adds dimension to the game. When I need to manage my officer I generally do this. In case of no danger, I only man the Chief Officer and The Watch Officer. The other 2 officer are resting. One in the Stern Quarters and One in the Bow Quarters. When the officers on duty became to get tired I replace the one in the stern quarters with the Chief Officer and the one in the Bow Quarters with the Watch Officer. If you have more than 4 officers, and you don't have the space to rest them, try sending them to the compartments where they won't get tired compared to the other departments. Repair and Torpedo Rooms (even if there are no repair or torpedo loading/unloading) are the most tiring compartments if I don't remember wrong. The less tiring ones are Electric and Diesel Engine compartment I believe. __________________ "Though I'm past 240 meters, I'm feeling very still and I think my u-boot knows which way to go ..."

12-18-14, 04:58 AM	#4
Nerazzurri Sonar Guy Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Scotland Posts: 392 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	Welcome RS. Crew management is not for me and I select the no fatigue option in Commander - it's a 'gamey' option, but I'd rather that than be put off the game by micro management. Hydrophones are one of the first upgrades you can get but I'm not sure of the details of how much more effective they are. I often struggle with identifying flags too I'm looking forward to any tips from other captains. __________________ GWX v3.0 Gold, Commander v3.2. WINDOWS 10, G3258 @ 3.8Ghz, 8GB RAM, GTX 960 2Gb.

12-18-14, 05:16 AM	#5
Aras Helmsman Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Istanbul, Turkey Posts: 102 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 0	The flag identification becomes harder if you are far then 1500 meters to the target. Its harder in late war since you won't get that close to a convoy. However if they are sailing with the a convoy, then its definitely a target for you. For single merchants, if they are in enemy control waters, the odds are high that it is safe to sink them. __________________ "Though I'm past 240 meters, I'm feeling very still and I think my u-boot knows which way to go ..."

12-18-14, 05:37 AM	#6
u crank Old enough to know better Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Prince Edward Island Posts: 11,744 Downloads: 136 Uploads: 0	Welcome to SubSim Riversub. __________________ “Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.” ― Arthur C. Clarke

12-17-14, 10:39 PM	#1
Riversub Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Ahoy!...and a question Hi All, What a great forum and community. Tonnage of information for sure ;-). New to SH3 here and I am really loving the game. Just completed my first patrol in a type VIIB/1940 and no crash dives yet - but I know the pain is coming! One thing I find a bit challenging in the game is crew management. Any tips on keeping my Sub-Lieutenants at their stations consistently? Short of remembering their names and their default posts it has been difficult to keep them at the same station. They eventually need sleep and I invariably forget where they were originally stationed once rested. I assume that keeping them at a single station as much as possible will result in faster "experience" points? or does this not matter? Some other questions: When awarding medals - is it better to spread them among the crew or stack one particular person up? I can't seem to get the hydrophone working and the sonar officer rarely reports any sound contacts, even when I know there are vessels in the vicinity. Will these come with a later sub or as a sub upgrade? Finally, is there an easier way to see the flags of the other ships at a distance? Even at 6x zoom on the periscope I sometimes have a hard time figuring out if they are neutral or foe? thanks for any advice.

12-18-14, 08:41 AM	#7
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,481 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Welcome to SubSim __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

12-18-14, 10:34 AM	#8
Raptor Weps Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Pacific NW, USA Posts: 350 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	Remove fatique from stock game Use Notepad or some other text editor to manually edit this file: C:/Ubisoft/Data/Cfg/Basic.cfg Scroll down about 1/3 of the file to [FATIGUE_COEF] Replace all positive values with zero. Leave all negative values (only in comp 6 and comp 7) untouched. This removes fatigue from the game so you don't have to spend a lot of time on crew management. Here's the complete cut-and-paste edit: [FATIGUE_COEF] ;comp0 tower RegularFactor00=0.00 SpecificFactor00=0.0 BadWeather0=0.0 ;comp1 sonar/radio RegularFactor10=0.00 RegularFactor11=0.00 SpecificFactor10=0.0 SpecificFactor11=0.0 BadWeather1=0.00 ;comp2 command room RegularFactor20=0.00 RegularFactor21=0.00 SpecificFactor20=0.0 SpecificFactor21=0.0 BadWeather2=0.00 ;comp3 diesel RegularFactor30=0.00 RegularFactor31=0.00 SpecificFactor30=0.0 SpecificFactor31=0.000 BadWeather3=0.0 ;comp4 electric RegularFactor40=0.00 RegularFactor41=0.00 SpecificFactor40=0.000 SpecificFactor41=0.0 BadWeather4=0.00 ;comp5 bow torp RegularFactor50=0.00 RegularFactor51=0.00 SpecificFactor50=0.0 SpecificFactor51=0.0 BadWeather5=0.0 ;comp6 bow rest SpecificFactor60=-0.0000003 SpecificFactor61=-0.0000003 ;comp7 stern rest SpecificFactor70=-0.0000003 SpecificFactor71=-0.0000003 ;comp8 stern torp RegularFactor80=0.00 RegularFactor81=0.00 SpecificFactor80=0.0 SpecificFactor81=0.0 BadWeather8=0.0 ;comp9 deckgun RegularFactor90=0.00 SpecificFactor90=0.0 BadWeather9=0.0 ;comp10 flak RegularFactor100=0.00 SpecificFactor100=0.0 BadWeather10=0.0 ;comp 11 repair station RegularFactor110=0.00 RegularFactor111=0.00 SpecificFactor110=0.0 SpecificFactor111=0.0 BadWeather11=0 No one ever gets tired ( no more ! ) on patrol. Work them non-stop. They won't complain. __________________ Raptor

12-18-14, 11:03 AM	#9
Riversub Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Thanks for the warm welcome and good advice! Will disable fatigue in the game and give it a go. The crew can handle it :-). To quote a famous captain..."All you need is good people. Good people."

12-18-14, 04:20 PM	#10
U-15 Soundman Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Cannock Posts: 146 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Welcome Riversub to a great community. As regards flag identification, the GWX3 supermod increases the attack periscope magnification from the stock 6x to 10x. __________________ I hope they're still open, I'm bostin for a pint of Banks's U-15 [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

12-18-14, 05:11 PM	#11
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12-20-14, 08:18 PM	#13
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01-01-15, 02:35 PM	#14
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01-01-15, 03:03 PM	#15
Pisces Silent Hunter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: AN9771 Posts: 4,904 Downloads: 304 Uploads: 0	Welcome too! For the hydrophone to work you need to be below 10 meters depth. It doesn't work above it. So you really should dive to periscope depth to make use of it. Also, the various models have deaf-zones at the rear due to the engine/prop. Some also on the bow. Anyway, if you listen yourself than you can pretty much hear everything upto 35 km radius. There is even a volume boost button on the device to help you a bit. Just click at the right place. (Aside from your the volume knob on speakers if you have them) The AI crew make up their own mind though if they feel like reporting something. Sometimes they can be quite late. But deaf as a doornail they surely aren't. Even in the beginning. Unless you always go fast or at flank speed.