US and Iran agreement reached

Skybird · 11-24-13, 06:58 AM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-25074729

Iran did what it always does: trading words for time, and some sanction relief.

No word on Arrak.

No word on what after 6 months.

It is the typical mistake you see quite often in history: forcing a dangerous enemy into the corner - and then giving him a break of relief so that he can take a deep breath and become stronger again.

The centrifuges will stay where they are. Arak stays like it is. What is done in the hidden Kerry and Obama opportunistically do not care for.

I think since years that Obama is not williung to confront Iran over an Iranian nuclear bomb. He simply gives sh!t for the ME and Europe as well, does not even know anything of meaning about both places. He is focussed on the Pacific, and the energy boom in the US, most likely making the US the biggest oil producer by 2015, means they can strategically afford to give up their committment in the ME.

Bad news for the regimes there, from Egypt to Saudi Arabia, from Oman to Quatar. They are left with being confronted with their old Shia arch enemy fighting for dominance in the Muslim world: the Persians.

What the Americans will have achieved after Obama, is to have pressed the start button for a nuclear arms race in the region. My opinion of Obama never was that high and I always rejected the hysteria about the man five and six years ago when he visited Germany, he was a gifted speaker, but words mean nothing, his deeds speak against him, and not even the good speeches you hear from him anymore, meaning that even his value as a show entertainer has declined. It was hard to imagine by the end of Bush's reign, but Obama probably will leave behind even greater strategic longterm damage than Bush - and Bush already did a dedicated job in that regard.

European Gutmenschen no doubt will hail the agreement as a big step towards a peaceful solution over Iran. Ha! We will hear from their bomb program again, believe me. They want the bomb. The agreement now is what they are needed to do in order get it. They have been allowed to keep their trumps, and get some without giving something of substantial value.

But as I said, the US' interest in the ME is in decline anyway. Seen that way the policy of theirs now is just logical. It's called "pulling out".

It is unlikely that the Europeans will take this as a wake-up call. And that is probably the most important part of this story. My long-held believe that in the end Israel will be given up and the West will arrange itself with the Iranian bomb and will accept becoming susceptible to blackmail, has jumped upwards in intensity today. The nuclear arms race this necessarily will launch, will be claimed to have been "unforseeable".

Yes. How could one have seen that coming...

And Rouhani played his cards well. He is as adamant on the bomb program as Ahmadinejadh has been. He just conceals it much better behind smiles, avoiding unneeded provocations, and speaking sweet words while shaking hands. That is what Westerners want to see in order to be made believing. Of course they immediately fell for this guy when he announced his candidacy.

Problem is he is neither the moderate nor the reformer Westerners want him to see as. Currently he is only about one thing: consolidating his power basis in the population. And the West has become his accomplice in that.

11-24-13, 06:58 AM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	US and Iran agreement reached http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-25074729 Iran did what it always does: trading words for time, and some sanction relief. No word on Arrak. No word on what after 6 months. It is the typical mistake you see quite often in history: forcing a dangerous enemy into the corner - and then giving him a break of relief so that he can take a deep breath and become stronger again. The centrifuges will stay where they are. Arak stays like it is. What is done in the hidden Kerry and Obama opportunistically do not care for. I think since years that Obama is not williung to confront Iran over an Iranian nuclear bomb. He simply gives sh!t for the ME and Europe as well, does not even know anything of meaning about both places. He is focussed on the Pacific, and the energy boom in the US, most likely making the US the biggest oil producer by 2015, means they can strategically afford to give up their committment in the ME. Bad news for the regimes there, from Egypt to Saudi Arabia, from Oman to Quatar. They are left with being confronted with their old Shia arch enemy fighting for dominance in the Muslim world: the Persians. What the Americans will have achieved after Obama, is to have pressed the start button for a nuclear arms race in the region. My opinion of Obama never was that high and I always rejected the hysteria about the man five and six years ago when he visited Germany, he was a gifted speaker, but words mean nothing, his deeds speak against him, and not even the good speeches you hear from him anymore, meaning that even his value as a show entertainer has declined. It was hard to imagine by the end of Bush's reign, but Obama probably will leave behind even greater strategic longterm damage than Bush - and Bush already did a dedicated job in that regard. European Gutmenschen no doubt will hail the agreement as a big step towards a peaceful solution over Iran. Ha! We will hear from their bomb program again, believe me. They want the bomb. The agreement now is what they are needed to do in order get it. They have been allowed to keep their trumps, and get some without giving something of substantial value. But as I said, the US' interest in the ME is in decline anyway. Seen that way the policy of theirs now is just logical. It's called "pulling out". It is unlikely that the Europeans will take this as a wake-up call. And that is probably the most important part of this story. My long-held believe that in the end Israel will be given up and the West will arrange itself with the Iranian bomb and will accept becoming susceptible to blackmail, has jumped upwards in intensity today. The nuclear arms race this necessarily will launch, will be claimed to have been "unforseeable". Yes. How could one have seen that coming... And Rouhani played his cards well. He is as adamant on the bomb program as Ahmadinejadh has been. He just conceals it much better behind smiles, avoiding unneeded provocations, and speaking sweet words while shaking hands. That is what Westerners want to see in order to be made believing. Of course they immediately fell for this guy when he announced his candidacy. Problem is he is neither the moderate nor the reformer Westerners want him to see as. Currently he is only about one thing: consolidating his power basis in the population. And the West has become his accomplice in that. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.