Oops, Dreamlifter trouble!

Herr-Berbunch · 11-21-13, 08:12 AM

Someone's going to be flying a cargo plane out of Hong Kong in future.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-25032380

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A Boeing 747 Dreamlifter cargo plane may be stuck at a minor airport in Kansas for some time after it apparently landed there by mistake.
The giant cargo jet was heading for McConnell air force base in Wichita but instead touched down at nearby Colonel James Jabara airport.

Remove everything, minimal fuel/crew, windy day (in the right direction) - no problem.

I recall this being done with a C-17 recently, and there was also an airliner landed in a field in Florida* I think and took off successfully.

*Edit - Found it - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TACA_Flight_110 in New Orleans, not Florida.

Edit #2 - More on the C-17, turns out they nearly landed at the wrong airport, realised their mistake and then landed at another wrong airport.

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As the C-17 approached Tampa, the pilot mistook a smaller airfield for MacDill, according to the account. The co-pilot and a crew member corrected him: It was Peter O. Knight, they said.
But it was actually Tampa Executive Airport, well northeast of downtown. So when the real Peter O. Knight rolled into view, they were expecting it to be MacDill.

Skybird · 11-21-13, 08:17 AM

Or strap two F4 Phantoms to the Boeing's wings.

Wolferz · 11-21-13, 08:36 AM

Anybody have a pair of JATO pods or rocket motors?

Herr-Berbunch · 11-21-13, 08:39 AM

Or get some engineers with a lot of PSP.

Sailor Steve · 11-21-13, 09:54 AM

I do like the name of the little airport.

Jimbuna · 11-21-13, 10:32 AM

Bring back the Harrier...problem solved.

Herr-Berbunch · 11-21-13, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I do like the name of the little airport.

I'm afraid I just had to look him up. Great achievements, sad way to go.

BrucePartington · 11-21-13, 05:00 PM

Apparently it has already taken off

Just follow original link in OP.

Stealhead · 11-21-13, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I do like the name of the little airport.

Indeed. USAF Korean War F-86 pilot and ace James Jabora first American jet ace.

Herr-Berbunch · 11-21-13, 06:26 PM

There's also another airport, Beech, between the two.

I bet someone will play the pilot a bit of Meat Loaf - two out of three ain't bad.

Another airport out to the west, poor pilot, four airports around one city, no wonder he got confused.

Cybermat47 · 11-21-13, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealhead

Indeed. USAF Korean War F-86 pilot and ace James Jabora first American jet ace.

Didn't he also serve in WWII?

Immpretty sure he had bad eyesight, so he pumped himself full of vitamins to improve it. Good on him.

Stealhead · 11-21-13, 09:29 PM

He was in WWII and according to Wikipedia he did eat a huge amount of carrots in the belief that this would improve his eyesight though I do not believe that he had bad vision and if he did it corrected some other way.It all depends on what the problem some people must need glasses for life or surgery others they may only need to wear glasses for certain time span and their vision corrects.

Carrots actually do not improve your eyesight though.

In the Wikipedia article I only see one iffy linked source alluding to his poor vision.I also only find one source for the claim that he ate of the carrots with a sourced link which interestingly enough is a the same exact article as the source for the poor vision claim only on a different page.So all things considered I think that the whole thing is a story his poor vision and carrot eating.In the entire section on his early life uses the same questionable web article as a source with a few exceptions.Not trying to nit pick you Cyber I do have issue with whoever wrote that Wikipedia article and I rather dislike it being a military history buff when incorrect or questionable claims are made.

I do know for certain the he got a "kill by maneuver" which means that he made such an aggressive attack that it made the enemy pilot loose control resulting in a crash.It was a head attack one MiG-15 via 6 .50 cals and his wing man that freaked out and went into a flat spin and never recovered.Credit was given because the pilot lost control trying to evade Jabara's attack.He also went into combat with a hung drop tank something that made the F-86 exceedingly difficult to control and still scored kills against a numerically superior enemy to boot and the MiG-15 was no slouch especially in Soviet hands.

Kind of ironic that some pilots would make such a beginners mistake of landing at the wrong airfield and one named after a highly skilled aviator.

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Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	There's also another airport, Beech, between the two. I bet someone will play the pilot a bit of Meat Loaf - two out of three ain't bad. Another airport out to the west, poor pilot, four airports around one city, no wonder he got confused. __________________

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Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	He was in WWII and according to Wikipedia he did eat a huge amount of carrots in the belief that this would improve his eyesight though I do not believe that he had bad vision and if he did it corrected some other way.It all depends on what the problem some people must need glasses for life or surgery others they may only need to wear glasses for certain time span and their vision corrects. Carrots actually do not improve your eyesight though. In the Wikipedia article I only see one iffy linked source alluding to his poor vision.I also only find one source for the claim that he ate of the carrots with a sourced link which interestingly enough is a the same exact article as the source for the poor vision claim only on a different page.So all things considered I think that the whole thing is a story his poor vision and carrot eating.In the entire section on his early life uses the same questionable web article as a source with a few exceptions.Not trying to nit pick you Cyber I do have issue with whoever wrote that Wikipedia article and I rather dislike it being a military history buff when incorrect or questionable claims are made. I do know for certain the he got a "kill by maneuver" which means that he made such an aggressive attack that it made the enemy pilot loose control resulting in a crash.It was a head attack one MiG-15 via 6 .50 cals and his wing man that freaked out and went into a flat spin and never recovered.Credit was given because the pilot lost control trying to evade Jabara's attack.He also went into combat with a hung drop tank something that made the F-86 exceedingly difficult to control and still scored kills against a numerically superior enemy to boot and the MiG-15 was no slouch especially in Soviet hands. Kind of ironic that some pilots would make such a beginners mistake of landing at the wrong airfield and one named after a highly skilled aviator. Last edited by Stealhead; 11-21-13 at 10:06 PM.