"at war" dates.

the.terrabyte.pirate · 09-05-13, 06:30 AM

Hi all.

I'm playing SHIV + Op Monsun.

How do I determine if a particular country is at war with me in my U-boat at a particular date?

I seem to remember SHIII having a chart, but it might have been included with Grey Wolves.

Thanks,

HertogJan · 09-05-13, 08:14 AM

As far as I know from 1940 to the end of the war basicly every country is at war with Germany and Japan (apart from the Neutral country obviously).

If however you're uncertain to attack... surface the boat, you'll know quite soon if its friend or fowl.

[Edit]
Forgot, there's a chart in SH4 which shows the enemy ports and such, but I don't know bout OM my guess there's one there too.

Rockin Robbins · 09-05-13, 08:16 AM

Well, if it's British, American or Dutch---shoot it!

in_vino_vomitus · 09-05-13, 11:11 AM

there's a mod called Csengoi's Enemies of Germany - which adds a page to your help file showing every country's flag and the dates they were at war with Germany - also if a ship is in British waters then it's pretty much a legit target after the first few months of the war, when Germany gave up on the Prize Rules. - I've agonised over this many times myself.

Here it is.....

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=3089

Rockin Robbins · 09-05-13, 02:53 PM

Well, if you want a chart of enemies of Germany, the top rated enemy has to be Germany! Such stupidity! You can't even tell how they lost the war because they made dozens of fatal mistakes, any one of which was sufficient to guarantee their defeat.

But just taking our end of the war, the moment they built the first Type VII they had the war lost. Germany had no business building submarines for an offensive war. Using them guaranteed them the loss before the first shot in the war was fired. There was no escape. They doomed themselves, considered the situation and then did the deed anyway. That is stupidity of a degree that makes anything the Japanese did look brilliant.

But if they hadn't stupidly used submarines, we may have used them wrongly and lost our submarine battle of the Pacific.

in_vino_vomitus · 09-05-13, 03:52 PM

That's a very good point - but until someone writes an existentialist mod I'd say it's probably better to shoot the torpedoes at the Allies....

09-05-13, 06:30 AM	#1
the.terrabyte.pirate Navy Dude Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 176 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	"at war" dates. Hi all. I'm playing SHIV + Op Monsun. How do I determine if a particular country is at war with me in my U-boat at a particular date? I seem to remember SHIII having a chart, but it might have been included with Grey Wolves. Thanks, __________________ A kings ransom, or a stove boat.

09-05-13, 08:16 AM	#3
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Well, if it's British, American or Dutch---shoot it! __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

09-05-13, 11:11 AM	#4
in_vino_vomitus XO Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Preston, Lancs, UK Posts: 418 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	there's a mod called Csengoi's Enemies of Germany - which adds a page to your help file showing every country's flag and the dates they were at war with Germany - also if a ship is in British waters then it's pretty much a legit target after the first few months of the war, when Germany gave up on the Prize Rules. - I've agonised over this many times myself. Here it is..... http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=3089 __________________ Forget death - I'll take dishonour! [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] TMO 2.5 1.5 Optical Targeting Correction 031312 for TMO 2.5 1.5 OTC Realistic Scopes for TMO TheDarkWraith_DC_Water_Disturbance_v2_0_SH4 Improved Stock environment v3_TMO&RFB TMO_Alt_engine-sounds TMO_Alternate_JS_Radar_performance TMO17_19_different_smoke

09-05-13, 02:53 PM	#5
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Well, if you want a chart of enemies of Germany, the top rated enemy has to be Germany! Such stupidity! You can't even tell how they lost the war because they made dozens of fatal mistakes, any one of which was sufficient to guarantee their defeat. But just taking our end of the war, the moment they built the first Type VII they had the war lost. Germany had no business building submarines for an offensive war. Using them guaranteed them the loss before the first shot in the war was fired. There was no escape. They doomed themselves, considered the situation and then did the deed anyway. That is stupidity of a degree that makes anything the Japanese did look brilliant. But if they hadn't stupidly used submarines, we may have used them wrongly and lost our submarine battle of the Pacific. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

09-05-13, 03:52 PM	#6
in_vino_vomitus XO Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Preston, Lancs, UK Posts: 418 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	That's a very good point - but until someone writes an existentialist mod I'd say it's probably better to shoot the torpedoes at the Allies.... __________________ Forget death - I'll take dishonour! [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] TMO 2.5 1.5 Optical Targeting Correction 031312 for TMO 2.5 1.5 OTC Realistic Scopes for TMO TheDarkWraith_DC_Water_Disturbance_v2_0_SH4 Improved Stock environment v3_TMO&RFB TMO_Alt_engine-sounds TMO_Alternate_JS_Radar_performance TMO17_19_different_smoke

09-05-13, 08:14 AM	#2
HertogJan Weps Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 357 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	As far as I know from 1940 to the end of the war basicly every country is at war with Germany and Japan (apart from the Neutral country obviously). If however you're uncertain to attack... surface the boat, you'll know quite soon if its friend or fowl. [Edit] Forgot, there's a chart in SH4 which shows the enemy ports and such, but I don't know bout OM my guess there's one there too.