Swedish police brutality

Rockstar · 05-22-13, 08:49 AM

Wow, three days of riots in response to Swedish racism culminating in a police shooting of an innocent immigrant.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22622909

Gerald · 05-22-13, 10:21 AM

The shooting can not be held responsible because they burn cars and disturb the regular order, and besides, it was not racism behind this, which is now.

Betonov · 05-22-13, 10:27 AM

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An investigation is under way into the shooting of a man, 69, last Monday after police were called out to a home in Husby where the man was allegedly brandishing a machete.
Police say they tried unsuccessfully to negotiate with the man after learning a woman was inside the flat along with him. They then stormed the flat.

Drastic, could have been handled better but justifiable I say.
Never bring a sword to a gunfight one might say.

_dgn_ · 05-22-13, 10:29 AM

The "innocent immigrant" who threatened to kill policemen with a machete ?

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...More than 80% of Husby's 12,000 or so inhabitants are from an immigrant background, and most are from Turkey, the Middle East and Somalia ...

Maybe the key of the problem ...

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...On Sunday night, more than 100 cars were set alight, Swedish media report ...

How many cars were set alight, when there was ONLY Swedish people in this suburb ?

Yes, to restore the order, a little police "brutality" is necessary : Dura lex, sed lex !

Cheers.

bradclark1 · 05-22-13, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar

Wow, three days of riots in response to Swedish racism culminating in a police shooting of an innocent immigrant.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22622909

I wouldn't call someone with an machete innocent.

Gerald · 05-22-13, 10:38 AM

Now it has not gone to the media has written about, the man was given probably armed, but that it then degenerated has no relation to the man who some revenge, this is a social problem with integration and refractions as a result.

Schroeder · 05-22-13, 11:08 AM

In before Skybird.

But guys, that is cultural enrichment and we should be happy to have it!

Skybird · 05-22-13, 11:52 AM

Bin schon da!

He who will not hear must feel.

Swedes allowed them in and poked pencils in their own eyes to not see whom they let in. Things move on in the forseeable paths, therefore. Same in Britain, Netherlands. With Germany and France and other countries to follow.

In a hundred years, the majority religion in Europe will not be Christianity anymore.

Multiculti and melting pots work when combining some, certain, matching cultures, history shows examples of some surprisingly well-working examples. But it does not work with just any combination. It's like cooking. You combine certain ingredients to make a meal, and you use certain herbs only to turn a good meal into a better meal. But if you throw just everything there is into the same pot, all you get is an emetic.

Rockstar · 05-22-13, 12:10 PM

"Cultural enrichment", I like that.

We could take the high road and assume the media's usual stance, blame it on just a few rabble rousers and forget about it by tomorrow. Or the other option is we all hop on the bandwagon and support the these students risking their lives fighting against an oppressive police state and monarchy.

We must be careful though to ignore the obvious and hope it goes away real soon. Which is why I thought it would be politically correct to blame it on police brutality.

05-22-13, 01:12 PM

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In a hundred years, the majority religion in Europe will not be Christianity anymore.

But you hate Christians too so it won't change your personal level of misery and victim complex

Jimbuna · 05-22-13, 01:44 PM

I'm hoping the topic will be debated without resorting to personal attacks.

TIA

05-22-13, 02:29 PM

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I'm hoping the topic will be debated without resorting to personal attacks.

Is there a personal attack?
I just question how someone who complains that Germany is a christian nation which they are "forced" to live with can complain about the ongoing decline of christianity in europe.

Jimbuna · 05-22-13, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

Is there a personal attack?
I just question how someone who complains that Germany is a christian nation which they are "forced" to live with can complain about the ongoing decline of christianity in europe.

I'm not referring to anything or anyone in particular but previous instances on numerous threads have led to acrimony so I'm appealing to every contributor, especially in GT to observe and adhere to the site forum rules as well as the forum owners wishes on said behaviour.

Clear breaches will be dealt with in accordance with the above as well as patterns that can be reasonably interpreted as 'pushing the boundaries'.

Wamiduku · 05-22-13, 06:14 PM

A small update from Sweden

More immigrant dominated Stockholm suburbs are burning tonight and fire men and rescue personnel are being attacked (as usual, I'm afraid). The fire brigade has told the press that they have to leave some fires burning because of the attacks against their personnel.

Some cars are burning in Malmö (in southern Sweden) too, but so far there are no reports of full scale riots there.

The press cites high unemployment rates and a dismal looking future as the main causes for these events. However, Värmland, Dalarna, Norrland etc also suffer from high unemployment with little hopes of future improvement, but the people there, who are ethnically Swedish, have not set fire to their cities or attacked rescue personnel. So, unemployment is not the cause of the riots.

(I used to be sarcastical against people who voted for the immigration critical Sweden Democrats. I deeply apologize for this. These events and those in 2010 have served me the humble pie. Now I fully understand everyone who voted for SD.)

edit: Just as I hit the Post button, I hear this from the expressen.se live stream:
- 3 more suburbs are burning
- a school has been torched
- fire and rescue personnel are retreating from several fires due to attacks
- urban transit system is shut down due to attacks
- while the on site reporter talks, someone behind the him shouts "Allahu akbar!" and throws a bomb that sets fire to a car
- the national broadcast's (SVT) car has been destroyed

05-22-13, 06:25 PM

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So, unemployment is not the cause of the riots.

Do you think there are any riots throughout history which only have one "cause"?

05-22-13, 08:49 AM	#1
Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Swedish police brutality Wow, three days of riots in response to Swedish racism culminating in a police shooting of an innocent immigrant. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22622909

05-22-13, 10:21 AM	#2
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	The shooting can not be held responsible because they burn cars and disturb the regular order, and besides, it was not racism behind this, which is now. __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

05-22-13, 10:38 AM	#6
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	Now it has not gone to the media has written about, the man was given probably armed, but that it then degenerated has no relation to the man who some revenge, this is a social problem with integration and refractions as a result. __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

05-22-13, 11:08 AM	#7
Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	In before Skybird. But guys, that is cultural enrichment and we should be happy to have it! __________________ Putting Germ back into Germany.

05-22-13, 11:52 AM	#8
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,603 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Bin schon da! He who will not hear must feel. Swedes allowed them in and poked pencils in their own eyes to not see whom they let in. Things move on in the forseeable paths, therefore. Same in Britain, Netherlands. With Germany and France and other countries to follow. In a hundred years, the majority religion in Europe will not be Christianity anymore. Multiculti and melting pots work when combining some, certain, matching cultures, history shows examples of some surprisingly well-working examples. But it does not work with just any combination. It's like cooking. You combine certain ingredients to make a meal, and you use certain herbs only to turn a good meal into a better meal. But if you throw just everything there is into the same pot, all you get is an emetic. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

05-22-13, 12:10 PM	#9
Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	"Cultural enrichment", I like that. We could take the high road and assume the media's usual stance, blame it on just a few rabble rousers and forget about it by tomorrow. Or the other option is we all hop on the bandwagon and support the these students risking their lives fighting against an oppressive police state and monarchy. We must be careful though to ignore the obvious and hope it goes away real soon. Which is why I thought it would be politically correct to blame it on police brutality. Last edited by Rockstar; 05-22-13 at 12:45 PM.

05-22-13, 01:44 PM	#11
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,473 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I'm hoping the topic will be debated without resorting to personal attacks. TIA __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

05-22-13, 06:14 PM	#14
Wamiduku Seaman Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Sweden Posts: 32 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	A small update from Sweden More immigrant dominated Stockholm suburbs are burning tonight and fire men and rescue personnel are being attacked (as usual, I'm afraid). The fire brigade has told the press that they have to leave some fires burning because of the attacks against their personnel. Some cars are burning in Malmö (in southern Sweden) too, but so far there are no reports of full scale riots there. The press cites high unemployment rates and a dismal looking future as the main causes for these events. However, Värmland, Dalarna, Norrland etc also suffer from high unemployment with little hopes of future improvement, but the people there, who are ethnically Swedish, have not set fire to their cities or attacked rescue personnel. So, unemployment is not the cause of the riots. (I used to be sarcastical against people who voted for the immigration critical Sweden Democrats. I deeply apologize for this. These events and those in 2010 have served me the humble pie. Now I fully understand everyone who voted for SD.) edit: Just as I hit the Post button, I hear this from the expressen.se live stream: - 3 more suburbs are burning - a school has been torched - fire and rescue personnel are retreating from several fires due to attacks - urban transit system is shut down due to attacks - while the on site reporter talks, someone behind the him shouts "Allahu akbar!" and throws a bomb that sets fire to a car - the national broadcast's (SVT) car has been destroyed Last edited by Wamiduku; 05-22-13 at 06:32 PM.