[REL] Completely new recognition manual

FooFighters · 11-24-07, 04:55 PM

SHIV recognition manual by FooFighters.
First of all I wanna thank WernerSobe for starting this idea !

This manual is completely redone, no more country based.
You can now choose a manual based on sighting and ships signature.

These new are the catagories :

Merchants
* Cargo Composite (structure, wheelhouse and smokestack attached)
* Multi national merchant manual (original merchant manual with both Jap and US ships).
* Cargo Split (wheelhouse, smokestack are seperated)
* Passenger ships (passenger & troop transport)
* Engine Aft (smokestack on back of the ship)

IJN warships
* IJN Battleships
* IJN Carriers
* IJN Cruisers
* IJN Destroyers
* IJN Patrol

Allied warships
* US Navy warships
* Royal Navy warships

All japanese merchants are now called ... Maru. This makes it more challenging to ID a ship.
Also it gives a more realistic feel then sighting a jap huge european liner :P

Ship length.. In the mod there will be 3 choises of names.cfg :

* No length
* Length in meters
* Length in feet

Download versions..There are 4 released versions of this mod :
Please use the one the suits your game.

Instalation order
* Make shure you enable TM, RFB, RSRDC and ROW before enabling the manual
* CapnSurvy's manual targeting ship centered mod must be enabled after this mod.

New stock and TM versions available.. 28th december 2007
New RFB version available.. 29th december 2007

Stock SH4 (version 3)
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/RecStockSH4V3.rar

Stock SH4 + RSRDC phase II (version 3)
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/RecStockRSRDCV3.rar

TM1.7.5 (version 3)
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/RecStockTM17V3.rar

TM1.7.5 + RSRDC phase II (version 3)
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/RecTM17RSRDCV3.rar

Stock SH4 + RFB (version 2)
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/RecStockRFBV2.rar

RFB + RSRDC phase II (version 2)
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/RecRFBRSRDCV2.rar

FAQ

1) Is this mod compatible with patch 1.4 ?
- Yes, this mod is only for patch 1.4 (the patch changes the menu1024x768)
2) Is this mod compatible with other mods ?
- Yes, with ROW, RFB, Run Silent Run Deep, Trigger Maru 1.7, Manual targeting ship centered
3) The order composite cargo - multi national ships - split cargo is strange, why ?
- Because this is hard coded by the devs. It cannot be modded.
4) Why are japenese merchants called Maru ?
- These are the original Japanese names for the merchants.
5) Why can't I open the manual ?
- You have to click on the bottom part of the manual (near the letters STR)
- I enlarged the (original flag) picture, throught this picture you cannot open the manual.
6) When can I enable this mod ?
- Only during new campaigns or when you are in base. Enabling during missions in campaign mode can give CTD's !
7) Standard the mod comes with length in feet, How do I change this ?
- In the mod a map called support is added, open this one. Choose the length type you want.
Copy it over the one in : silenthunter4/data/roster/names.cfg
8) Can I use this mod with the museum ?
- No, It will give CTD's. If you want to view the museum disable the mod.
- Same goes for using the mission editor, disable this mod first.

Make sure you use the right manual version that correspond with your mods !

Thanks
Foo

leovampire · 11-24-07, 05:28 PM

Might have compatability problems between RSRD / TM and RFB due to new ship's and clasifications of ships added to the mod's and some ships have changed names in some of them.

SO make sure when you release it it says what it works well with for game change mod's.

But other wise great idea buddy!

FooFighters · 11-24-07, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leovampire

Might have compatability problems between RSRD / TM and RFB due to new ship's and clasifications of ships added to the mod's and some ships have changed names in some of them.

SO make sure when you release it it says what it works well with for game change mod's.

But other wise great idea buddy!

I figured that, I want to ask a few quys to test it when it's ready.

FooFighters · 11-24-07, 09:28 PM

removed because it were old pictures.

ReallyDedPoet · 11-24-07, 09:30 PM

Lookin' good FF

RDP

Digital_Trucker · 11-24-07, 10:49 PM

Looking so good, I may have to break down and start using it instead of letting the crew do the job

FooFighters · 11-25-07, 05:44 PM

I am looking for a few guys who want to test my new manual.
Please PM me, also let me know if you use any major mods like TM, RFB, RSRD and ROW.

I have written and tested it with both TM and ROW.
Both RSRD or RFB mods have not been tested yet.

Anyone interested ?

fireship4 · 11-25-07, 08:06 PM

Will you please do a version when the pages are red-lit to aid night vision? White pages really affect your eyes when all else is dark. There's a mod that does this for the standard manual on the mod list page called "Even darker recognition manual".

Also do you take all your ship dimensions from JP's ship dimension fix 1.3? I'm unsure now which ones are more correct, TM or JP's.

I'll be happy to test too, though my PC is on the blink. I run TM 1.6.5.

FooFighters · 11-26-07, 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fireship4

Will you please do a version when the pages are red-lit to aid night vision? White pages really affect your eyes when all else is dark. There's a mod that does this for the standard manual on the mod list page called "Even darker recognition manual".

Also do you take all your ship dimensions from JP's ship dimension fix 1.3? I'm unsure now which ones are more correct, TM or JP's.

I'll be happy to test too, though my PC is on the blink. I run TM 1.6.5.

Hi fireship4,

I will take a look on the red-lit style..

As far as I know, the JP fix dimensions is included in all TM versions.
So you should be oke.

I will PM you download link.

p.s. I will redo the cover color a bit because I have a CRT monitor at home.
The color there is more dark and greyish. Looks great.
Here at work it looks to green and well.. not so great.

DrBeast · 11-26-07, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FooFighters

p.s. I will redo the cover color a bit because I have a CRT monitor at home.
The color there is more dark and greyish. Looks great.
Here at work it looks to green and well.. not so great.

Well, it's obviously the CRT monitor that shows the right colors...gotta love those beasts!

tater · 11-26-07, 12:01 PM

I might have a crack at new pages at some point. I'm thinking I need to use Streamline to change the line art I have to vector so I can have them be clean.

I had also planned on dumping the various "extra" views of merchants entirely, they simply didn't exist in RL. You got an elevation line drawing, and maybe a plan view and a picture.

This is typical:

Note the "B" under the scale bars. That indicates that the data shown is just "OK." "A" would be it's very reliable. "C" would mean that aside from any photos, it's a total guess.

Most merhants have a "C" next to them in ONI 208-J.

FooFighters · 11-26-07, 01:30 PM

That would look pretty cool Tater

mrbeast · 11-26-07, 02:01 PM

Would it be possible to include a screen shot, suitably enhanced and in black and white, as the photo refference?

Or even better RL photos of the SH4 ships, that is the ships that SH based its models on, if suitable ones exist?

FooFighters · 11-26-07, 02:26 PM

Back to the drawing board..

I was stupid enough to not test in a carreer

CTD and CTD's..

fireship4 · 11-26-07, 02:29 PM

FooFighters, why dont you get together with Tater? I'm sure together you could pull of something outstanding, and it seems pointless to have two people working on the same thing separately. Of course If this happens I demand 10% cut of all profits as your new agent.

Cheers for the link, I will test if I can.

[Edited because I said Ducimus instead of Tater!]

11-24-07, 04:55 PM	#1
FooFighters Grey Wolf Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 813 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	[REL] Completely new recognition manual SHIV recognition manual by FooFighters. First of all I wanna thank WernerSobe for starting this idea ! This manual is completely redone, no more country based. You can now choose a manual based on sighting and ships signature. These new are the catagories : Merchants * Cargo Composite (structure, wheelhouse and smokestack attached) * Multi national merchant manual (original merchant manual with both Jap and US ships). * Cargo Split (wheelhouse, smokestack are seperated) * Passenger ships (passenger & troop transport) * Engine Aft (smokestack on back of the ship) IJN warships * IJN Battleships * IJN Carriers * IJN Cruisers * IJN Destroyers * IJN Patrol Allied warships * US Navy warships * Royal Navy warships All japanese merchants are now called ... Maru. This makes it more challenging to ID a ship. Also it gives a more realistic feel then sighting a jap huge european liner :P Ship length.. In the mod there will be 3 choises of names.cfg : * No length * Length in meters * Length in feet Download versions..There are 4 released versions of this mod : Please use the one the suits your game. Instalation order * Make shure you enable TM, RFB, RSRDC and ROW before enabling the manual * CapnSurvy's manual targeting ship centered mod must be enabled after this mod. New stock and TM versions available.. 28th december 2007 New RFB version available.. 29th december 2007 Stock SH4 (version 3) http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/RecStockSH4V3.rar Stock SH4 + RSRDC phase II (version 3) http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/RecStockRSRDCV3.rar TM1.7.5 (version 3) http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/RecStockTM17V3.rar TM1.7.5 + RSRDC phase II (version 3) http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/RecTM17RSRDCV3.rar Stock SH4 + RFB (version 2) http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/RecStockRFBV2.rar RFB + RSRDC phase II (version 2) http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/RecRFBRSRDCV2.rar FAQ 1) Is this mod compatible with patch 1.4 ? - Yes, this mod is only for patch 1.4 (the patch changes the menu1024x768) 2) Is this mod compatible with other mods ? - Yes, with ROW, RFB, Run Silent Run Deep, Trigger Maru 1.7, Manual targeting ship centered 3) The order composite cargo - multi national ships - split cargo is strange, why ? - Because this is hard coded by the devs. It cannot be modded. 4) Why are japenese merchants called Maru ? - These are the original Japanese names for the merchants. 5) Why can't I open the manual ? - You have to click on the bottom part of the manual (near the letters STR) - I enlarged the (original flag) picture, throught this picture you cannot open the manual. 6) When can I enable this mod ? - Only during new campaigns or when you are in base. Enabling during missions in campaign mode can give CTD's ! 7) Standard the mod comes with length in feet, How do I change this ? - In the mod a map called support is added, open this one. Choose the length type you want. Copy it over the one in : silenthunter4/data/roster/names.cfg 8) Can I use this mod with the museum ? - No, It will give CTD's. If you want to view the museum disable the mod. - Same goes for using the mission editor, disable this mod first. Make sure you use the right manual version that correspond with your mods ! Thanks Foo __________________ This forum is not the same without you Dave.. we'll miss you buddy Last edited by FooFighters; 01-02-08 at 04:40 PM.

11-24-07, 05:28 PM	#2
leovampire Eternal Patrol Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Waterbury, CT. USA Posts: 2,336 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	just watch the other mod's Foo Might have compatability problems between RSRD / TM and RFB due to new ship's and clasifications of ships added to the mod's and some ships have changed names in some of them. SO make sure when you release it it says what it works well with for game change mod's. But other wise great idea buddy! __________________ AIR_BASE_NAV_MAP_MOD Reflections_on_the_Water

11-24-07, 09:28 PM	#4
FooFighters Grey Wolf Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 813 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	removed because it were old pictures. __________________ This forum is not the same without you Dave.. we'll miss you buddy Last edited by FooFighters; 12-01-07 at 07:04 PM.

11-24-07, 09:30 PM	#5
ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada. The one and only, East Coast Posts: 10,885 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	Lookin' good FF RDP __________________ Back in the Day

11-24-07, 10:49 PM	#6
Digital_Trucker Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Peach State Posts: 4,171 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 10	Looking so good, I may have to break down and start using it instead of letting the crew do the job __________________ RSM-GIEP-Killflags-LV Tribute-Playable Elco __Peace be with you, Dave.

11-25-07, 05:44 PM	#7
FooFighters Grey Wolf Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 813 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	I am looking for a few guys who want to test my new manual. Please PM me, also let me know if you use any major mods like TM, RFB, RSRD and ROW. I have written and tested it with both TM and ROW. Both RSRD or RFB mods have not been tested yet. Anyone interested ? __________________ This forum is not the same without you Dave.. we'll miss you buddy

11-25-07, 08:06 PM	#8
fireship4 Ensign Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 221 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 0	Will you please do a version when the pages are red-lit to aid night vision? White pages really affect your eyes when all else is dark. There's a mod that does this for the standard manual on the mod list page called "Even darker recognition manual". Also do you take all your ship dimensions from JP's ship dimension fix 1.3? I'm unsure now which ones are more correct, TM or JP's. I'll be happy to test too, though my PC is on the blink. I run TM 1.6.5. __________________ Rest in peace Dave

11-26-07, 12:01 PM	#11
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	I might have a crack at new pages at some point. I'm thinking I need to use Streamline to change the line art I have to vector so I can have them be clean. I had also planned on dumping the various "extra" views of merchants entirely, they simply didn't exist in RL. You got an elevation line drawing, and maybe a plan view and a picture. This is typical: Note the "B" under the scale bars. That indicates that the data shown is just "OK." "A" would be it's very reliable. "C" would mean that aside from any photos, it's a total guess. Most merhants have a "C" next to them in ONI 208-J.

11-26-07, 01:30 PM	#12
FooFighters Grey Wolf Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 813 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	That would look pretty cool Tater __________________ This forum is not the same without you Dave.. we'll miss you buddy

11-26-07, 02:01 PM	#13
mrbeast Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bolton, UK Posts: 1,236 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Would it be possible to include a screen shot, suitably enhanced and in black and white, as the photo refference? Or even better RL photos of the SH4 ships, that is the ships that SH based its models on, if suitable ones exist? __________________

11-26-07, 02:26 PM	#14
FooFighters Grey Wolf Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 813 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	Back to the drawing board.. I was stupid enough to not test in a carreer CTD and CTD's.. __________________ This forum is not the same without you Dave.. we'll miss you buddy

11-26-07, 02:29 PM	#15
fireship4 Ensign Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 221 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 0	FooFighters, why dont you get together with Tater? I'm sure together you could pull of something outstanding, and it seems pointless to have two people working on the same thing separately. Of course If this happens I demand 10% cut of all profits as your new agent. Cheers for the link, I will test if I can. [Edited because I said Ducimus instead of Tater!] __________________ Rest in peace Dave Last edited by fireship4; 11-26-07 at 03:00 PM.