Number of DC carried

[igorlikespike]

Hello!

Sorry fot the question that might had already been posted before, but I was wonering know how many DCs does a destroyer or corvette in GWX 3. carry? I tried lookingi in SH3 Mission Editor,and the manual, but it does not state the number. From what I read elsewhere it was usually between 30 and 50 DCs per destroyer.

Is it then possible to run a convoy escort out of DCs? (I kind of got a feeling that they can because after 4H long depth charging, the destroyers still circled overhead pinging away but did not drop any 'trashcans' at me - the only reason my sub barely survived)

Thanks!

[Mittelwaechter]

IIRC the stern racks, the Y-guns and the K-guns carry 40 depth charges each (GWX).

The stern racks drop several cans per attack run (up to 5 or 6), the K-guns drop 2 times and the Y-guns - I think they drop only the loaded 2 cans.

You may want to check the reload times for them with Skwas Silent 3ditor. You can use it to mod your own loadout.

I gave my stern racks more DCs and took it from the K-guns to enable a more or less coordinated and steady coverage. Unmodded the K-guns have ammo for 20 attack runs but the stern racks are depleted after 8 to 10 attempts.


And yes, they do run out of DCs. The DDs carry more DCs in SH3 - well, you can mod it...

[andwii]

does anyone know the realistic depth charge set up on a real DD, or did GWX get it right.

[Sailor Steve]

According to the WW2 Conway's:

Old V/W = 30-45
A/B = 125
C/D = 125
E/F = 125
G/H/I = 40
Tribal = 30, later 46
J/K/N = 45
L/M = 110
O/P = 70
S/T/U/V/W = 70-130
Z/Ca = 80-130
Ch/Co/Cr = 48-70-108
Hunt = 50
Hunt II = 30-60
Hunt III = 30-70
Hunt IV = 30

Sloops:
Bridgewater = 15-40-80
Hastings = 15-40-80
Hindustan = 0
Shoreham = 15-40-90
Grimsby = 15-40-90
Indus = 60
Egret = 40-120
Black Swan = 40-110
Bittern = 90

Frigates:
River = 126-150
Loch = 15
Bay = 50
Captain = 160

Corvettes:
Flower = 72
Castle = 15 + Squid

[Missing Name]

In short, one destroyer did have enough wabos to cause at least some damage.

[igorlikespike]

Originally Posted by Mittelwaechter

IIRC the stern racks, the Y-guns and the K-guns carry 40 depth charges each (GWX).

The stern racks drop several cans per attack run (up to 5 or 6), the K-guns drop 2 times and the Y-guns - I think they drop only the loaded 2 cans.

You may want to check the reload times for them with Skwas Silent 3ditor. You can use it to mod your own loadout.

I gave my stern racks more DCs and took it from the K-guns to enable a more or less coordinated and steady coverage. Unmodded the K-guns have ammo for 20 attack runs but the stern racks are depleted after 8 to 10 attempts.


And yes, they do run out of DCs. The DDs carry more DCs in SH3 - well, you can mod it...

Thanks for the idea about Silent 3ditor, I'll check it out.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Missing Name

In short, one destroyer did have enough wabos to cause at least some damage.

It only takes one if it's close enough.

[igorlikespike]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

According to the WW2 Conway's:

Old V/W = 30-45
A/B = 125
C/D = 125
E/F = 125
G/H/I = 40
Tribal = 30, later 46
J/K/N = 45
L/M = 110
O/P = 70
S/T/U/V/W = 70-130
Z/Ca = 80-130
Ch/Co/Cr = 48-70-108
Hunt = 50
Hunt II = 30-60
Hunt III = 30-70
Hunt IV = 30

Sloops:
Bridgewater = 15-40-80
Hastings = 15-40-80
Hindustan = 0
Shoreham = 15-40-90
Grimsby = 15-40-90
Indus = 60
Egret = 40-120
Black Swan = 40-110
Bittern = 90

Frigates:
River = 126-150
Loch = 15
Bay = 50
Captain = 160

Corvettes:
Flower = 72
Castle = 15 + Squid

When you think of it, out of this impressive numbers of DCs carried, an escort needs to place only one or two near your boat and then ... Great info, thanks for sharing!

[igorlikespike]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

According to the WW2 Conway's:

Old V/W = 30-45
A/B = 125
C/D = 125
E/F = 125
G/H/I = 40
Tribal = 30, later 46
J/K/N = 45
L/M = 110
O/P = 70
S/T/U/V/W = 70-130
Z/Ca = 80-130
Ch/Co/Cr = 48-70-108
Hunt = 50
Hunt II = 30-60
Hunt III = 30-70
Hunt IV = 30

Sloops:
Bridgewater = 15-40-80
Hastings = 15-40-80
Hindustan = 0
Shoreham = 15-40-90
Grimsby = 15-40-90
Indus = 60
Egret = 40-120
Black Swan = 40-110
Bittern = 90

Frigates:
River = 126-150
Loch = 15
Bay = 50
Captain = 160

Corvettes:
Flower = 72
Castle = 15 + Squid

Great info, thanks for sharing!

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by igorlikespike

When you think of it, out of this impressive numbers of DCs carried, an escort needs to place only one or two near your boat and then ...

Just one will do it. On the other hand there are quite a few reports of u-boats surviving hours of depth-charging and taking little to no damage. The simple fact was that if a DC went off within 25 feet of the hull it could crack it wide open. If it went off more than 50 feet away damage was usually minimal.

One of my frustrations with Das Boot was that in an effort to make an unknowing audience get a feel for what was going on they made most of the depth charges go off so close that any one of them would have killed the boat right there.

[iambecomelife]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

According to the WW2 Conway's:

Old V/W = 30-45
A/B = 125
C/D = 125
E/F = 125
G/H/I = 40
Tribal = 30, later 46
J/K/N = 45
L/M = 110
O/P = 70
S/T/U/V/W = 70-130
Z/Ca = 80-130
Ch/Co/Cr = 48-70-108
Hunt = 50
Hunt II = 30-60
Hunt III = 30-70
Hunt IV = 30

Sloops:
Bridgewater = 15-40-80
Hastings = 15-40-80
Hindustan = 0
Shoreham = 15-40-90
Grimsby = 15-40-90
Indus = 60
Egret = 40-120
Black Swan = 40-110
Bittern = 90

Frigates:
River = 126-150
Loch = 15
Bay = 50
Captain = 160

Corvettes:
Flower = 72
Castle = 15 + Squid

I read a statement by an escort sailor saying that by the middle of the war, DC's were crammed into every available space on Royal Navy ships. There probably wouldn't have been a set number of depth charges for each class by, perhaps, 1943 - instead, the load must have varied depending on how resourceful a particular crew was. I imagine most escort classes that had about 50 or less DC's finished the war with hundreds.