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Old 11-17-08, 02:36 PM   #1
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Default Surprise, surprise Muslims have prophets too

http://www.danielpipes.org/article/6017

Ali ibn Abi-Talib, the seventh-century figure central to Shiite Islam, is said to have predicted when the world will end.

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A "tall black man" commanding "the strongest army on earth" will take power "in the west." He will carry "a clear sign" from the third imam, Hussein. Ali says of the tall black man: "Shiites should have no doubt that he is with us."
This prophecy is aout 1,300 years ago, but read the whole article ... all Muslims are not in agreement
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Old 11-17-08, 02:51 PM   #2
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...so?

What has this got to do with the price of eggs?
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Old 11-17-08, 02:57 PM   #3
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...so?

What has this got to do with the price of eggs?
I think it means that if you or I convert to Shiite Islam anytime soon, we had better listen to what the Iranian government is telling us and watch out for Barack Obama.
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Old 11-17-08, 03:09 PM   #4
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...so?

What has this got to do with the price of eggs?
I think it means that if you or I convert to Shiite Islam anytime soon, we had better listen to what the Iranian government is telling us and watch out for Barack Obama.
That is the general idea. :hmm:
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Old 11-17-08, 03:25 PM   #5
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Still, one can predict. Should Obama return to his hard left roots, Muslim euphoria will largely continue. Should he seek to make his presidency a success by moving to the center-left, many – but hardly all – Muslims will experience severe disillusionment.
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Old 11-17-08, 03:54 PM   #7
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Since when was any hard-line religion socially liberal/left wing?
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Old 11-17-08, 05:07 PM   #8
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If a 1,300 year old prophecy about a "tall black man leading the strongest army on earth will take power in the west", is not enouh to conince you then perhaps this will

Look at what numbers came up for pick 3 in the Illinois lottery the day after the election!




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Old 11-17-08, 06:03 PM   #9
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666 oh n0ez, we're all gonna die...obama is first going to take away your guns then blow us all up:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
now back to reality...simply a coincidence
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Old 11-17-08, 06:17 PM   #10
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Yeah yeah. Bible code predicts the Four Horsemen will ride and the XVI Pope will be the last, this guy said when a black man takes control of the strongest army on Earth, Nostradamus said in the 21st century...

Still waiting for one of these things to be correct.
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Old 11-17-08, 08:59 PM   #11
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So when is the next Dan Brown book coming out on this subject???

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Old 11-17-08, 09:31 PM   #12
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If a 1,300 year old prophecy about a "tall black man leading the strongest army on earth will take power in the west", is not enouh to conince you then perhaps this will
geetrue, I wasn't kidding. Follow the links from the article. Look:

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The question has made the rounds in Iran since last month, when a pro-government Web site published a Hadith (or tradition) from a Shiite text of the 17th century. The tradition comes from Bahar al-Anvar (meaning Oceans of Light) by Mullah Majlisi, a magnum opus in 132 volumes and the basis of modern Shiite Islam.

According to the tradition, Imam Ali Ibn Abi-Talib (the prophet's cousin and son-in-law) prophesied that at the End of Times and just before the return of the Mahdi, the Ultimate Saviour, a "tall black man will assume the reins of government in the West." Commanding "the strongest army on earth," the new ruler in the West will carry "a clear sign" from the third imam, whose name was Hussein Ibn Ali. The tradition concludes: "Shiites should have no doubt that he is with us."
I suspect you're just falling hook, line, and sinker to those rascally Iranians out to take advantage of the widening American political divide by hammering a wedge into it. The last thing they want is a U.S. president with a nation behind him. Painting him as the anti-Christ or herald of the End of Days is a good way to prevent that.
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Old 11-18-08, 12:24 PM   #13
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Lets not forget that Obama is half white, so which half is black? if we remove the white half this would disqualify him as being tall, therefore the prophecy could not come to pass....
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Old 11-18-08, 12:38 PM   #14
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Not sure if what I read has been verified or not, but (and I'll have to find the link again), it has been hypothesized that, according to the US census criteria, Obama can't even claim to be black. Evidently, according to this source that I can't remember, he's actually only 12.5% black, 50% white and 37.5% Arab.

I'll have to see if I can dig up some backup later this evening.

Seriously, according to the Mayan calendar, the world isn't supposed to end until Dec 21, 2012, anyway:rotfl:
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Old 11-18-08, 12:40 PM   #15
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Lets not forget that Obama is half white,
Indeed. Funnily enough I just read this analysis on the subject. It was of interest to me because my wife is of Asian decent while I'm a white guy.
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