Weirdnesses while playing

ABBAFAN · 08-19-11, 04:48 AM

While playing this game I have noticed that the watch system which seems to automatically rotate crew members while cruising starts to go awry when i do anything with it. They get fatigued very quickly and then certain tired crew keep getting placed on watch and it becomes so upended that I have to tend to it manually. I've also noticed it is sometimes very difficult to get the gun crew to engage a target using the iorders from the watch officer ie 'Target nearest ship/nearest warship/aim for hull' etc. Has anyone else noticed this?
I am playing the game completely unmodded.

JazzJR · 08-19-11, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ABBAFAN

I've also noticed it is sometimes very difficult to get the gun crew to engage a target using the iorders from the watch officer ie 'Target nearest ship/nearest warship/aim for hull' etc. Has anyone else noticed this?
I am playing the game completely unmodded.

For me they are firing at the ships. But even if i have a trained deck gunner they are shooting everywhere and SOMETIMES they actually hit the ship.

So i use the gun mostly by myself.

Fish In The Water · 08-19-11, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JazzJR

But even if i have a trained deck gunner they are shooting everywhere and SOMETIMES they actually hit the ship.

Trained at spraying ammo all over the ocean...

JazzJR · 08-19-11, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Fish In The Water

Trained at spraying ammo all over the ocean...

Thats what i am talking about

You hit it

So i didn't have a trained gunner anymore. i rather have a trained repairteam and torpedocrew. But i am glad that the enemy gunners are just as blind as my own gunner.

But they have the excuse that an U-Boot is an small target. But how can i miss a C2 Cargo on 1500 meters???

SubConscious · 08-19-11, 08:03 AM

It's also a whole lot more fun shooting the deck gun yourself, especially in GWX3 with the sub and target bobbing up and down with the waves.

I had one time, and only once, that I hit a trawler below the waterline amidships with my deck gun (HE) and it promptly exploded, split in half and sunk. Talk about lucky! My crew and I were stunned!

I like to take out the engine first, then hit under the water line on both sides of the ship. My logic is that the more compartments I can hit, the harder time they're going to have to control the flooding. It's also great fun.

SubConscious · 08-19-11, 02:18 PM

Working the deck gun is one of the highlights of the game for me. I envision myself saying "Fire on the up roll!" like some old sea captain in the days of wooden ships and iron men.

JazzJR · 08-19-11, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SubConscious

Working the deck gun is one of the highlights of the game for me. I envision myself saying "Fire on the up roll!" like some old sea captain in the days of wooden ships and iron men.

You mean back in this time?

FIREWALL · 08-19-11, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JazzJR

Thats what i am talking about

You hit it

So i didn't have a trained gunner anymore. i rather have a trained repairteam and torpedocrew. But i am glad that the enemy gunners are just as blind as my own gunner.

But they have the excuse that an U-Boot is an small target. But how can i miss a C2 Cargo on 1500 meters???

At 1500 meters be assured...

He won't MISS you.

And dipatch you in a short time.

...

JazzJR · 08-19-11, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by FIREWALL

At 1500 meters be assured...

He won't MISS you.

And dipatch you in a short time.

...

Well i had a battle with two cargo ships which attacked me with their deckguns. My own gunner was firing too but he didn't really hit the ships. The tracers were going to the left in the ocean and to the right but not one hit landed at the ship. So they had enough time to call reinforcements and just a few minutes later two or three Sunderland planes arrived and were throwing bombs at my ship.

FIREWALL · 08-19-11, 07:02 PM

Time to CRASH DIVE !!! JazzJR Quickly.

Did you take any damage from ships ?

If it's a seaman some can be good but,

most are recruit level. That's up to Ship Modder or GWX and Year.me thinks.

If it's manned by Military, LOOK OUT. Bad News

Hope, JazzJR you were lucky on year and who was manning their Guns.

Sailor Steve · 08-19-11, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by FIREWALL

Where is GQ in SH3 ?

There isn't one. I just came from the SH4 forum and wasn't thinking. My bad, fixed now.

And I deleted the wrong post, too!

I think I'll go to bed now.

FIREWALL · 08-19-11, 09:03 PM

No Problem Steve

I'm going to delete mine too.

It's been done by all of us. Get some rest.

JazzJR · 08-20-11, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by FIREWALL

Time to CRASH DIVE !!! JazzJR Quickly.

Did you take any damage from ships ?

If it's a seaman some can be good but,

most are recruit level. That's up to Ship Modder or GWX and Year.me thinks.

If it's manned by Military, LOOK OUT. Bad News

Hope, JazzJR you were lucky on year and who was manning their Guns.

My ship was damaged almost every part was beginning to flood. But thanks to my trained crew i was able to repair and dive at 70meters. Going to slow speed and always changed the course. Planes where still dropping bombs but didn't hit. The enemy ships were manned by military i think. Because they landed some hits and destroyed the topedo tubes 1 and 2. I was able to fire the gun myself long enough so that atleast one of the both ships sunk.

Sailor Steve · 08-20-11, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by JazzJR

But how can i miss a C2 Cargo on 1500 meters???

Here's something to think about. Naval gunnery is a very imprecise science. Author Peter Padfield, in his history Guns At Sea, likens it to shooting a pistol at a ping-pong ball rolling across a mantle while sitting across the room in a rocking chair being rocked at random by someone else.

A C2 is much larger than a u-boat, which makes it a bigger target, but also makes it a more stable gun platform. A submarine rolls and pitches - a lot. Also 1500 meters is almost a mile, and that's a long way. On the other hand he shouldn't be hitting you very well at that distance either.

All of that said, if you read the reports the reality was that u-boats didn't engage in gun battles much. When a merchant opened fire the u-boat almost always would dive and not be seen again.

Jimbuna · 08-20-11, 02:39 PM

The second a merchant begins returning fire DIVE!!

08-19-11, 04:48 AM	#1
ABBAFAN Commander Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 456 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Weirdnesses while playing While playing this game I have noticed that the watch system which seems to automatically rotate crew members while cruising starts to go awry when i do anything with it. They get fatigued very quickly and then certain tired crew keep getting placed on watch and it becomes so upended that I have to tend to it manually. I've also noticed it is sometimes very difficult to get the gun crew to engage a target using the iorders from the watch officer ie 'Target nearest ship/nearest warship/aim for hull' etc. Has anyone else noticed this? I am playing the game completely unmodded. __________________ CHOOSE RFA! LESS GRAFT, MORE PAY.

08-19-11, 08:03 AM	#5
SubConscious Frogman Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 309 Downloads: 102 Uploads: 0	It's also a whole lot more fun shooting the deck gun yourself, especially in GWX3 with the sub and target bobbing up and down with the waves. I had one time, and only once, that I hit a trawler below the waterline amidships with my deck gun (HE) and it promptly exploded, split in half and sunk. Talk about lucky! My crew and I were stunned! I like to take out the engine first, then hit under the water line on both sides of the ship. My logic is that the more compartments I can hit, the harder time they're going to have to control the flooding. It's also great fun. __________________ "Come into port greatly, or sail with God the seas..." - Emerson

08-19-11, 02:18 PM	#6
SubConscious Frogman Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 309 Downloads: 102 Uploads: 0	Working the deck gun is one of the highlights of the game for me. I envision myself saying "Fire on the up roll!" like some old sea captain in the days of wooden ships and iron men. __________________ "Come into port greatly, or sail with God the seas..." - Emerson

08-19-11, 07:02 PM	#10
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	Time to CRASH DIVE !!! JazzJR Quickly. Did you take any damage from ships ? If it's a seaman some can be good but, most are recruit level. That's up to Ship Modder or GWX and Year.me thinks. If it's manned by Military, LOOK OUT. Bad News Hope, JazzJR you were lucky on year and who was manning their Guns. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

08-19-11, 09:03 PM	#12
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	No Problem Steve I'm going to delete mine too. It's been done by all of us. Get some rest. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

08-20-11, 02:39 PM	#15
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,473 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	The second a merchant begins returning fire DIVE!! __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!