Watch crew not changing into wet gear

Paul Riley · 07-12-11, 03:43 PM

Evening all,

Just breaking out of the Skageraak as I speak and it looks like the weather is turning,with distant thunder heard in the distance,wind is choppy at 9 mps.I ordered a quick periscope dive then surface to get the men into their 'wet gear' (I know its only cosmetic but I enjoy rough weather and getting the men into their seal skins) only to find they are still dressed as if ready to get the deck chairs out

Any ideas on this 'glitch'?.
NOTE - I have a mod called 'grey leather crew' by Fubar installed as part of my mods collection,but I cant imagine this being a problem as it only gives the watch officer a grey leather jacket from what I can tell.

Thanks in advance.

Paul Riley · 07-12-11, 04:09 PM

Is there a particular trigger for the wet gear in the game,I mean,no matter how high the waves are does there have to be precipitations of SOME kind no matter how light? In my case the exact weather conditions are:

clouds overcast, precipitations none, vis reduced, wind 9 mps.

Thanks

Paul Riley · 07-12-11, 05:15 PM

A quick question for you Jim,

Out of interest regarding this issue,I do have your 'guns in all weather + ammo' mods installed,could this be causing a conflict?.The concept of the mod is fantastic but could it cause problems with the crew changing into wet gear?,rendering the transition 'stuck' in effect?.I hope not because being able to attack in rough seas really appeals to me even if it is not historically very accurate...sort of.

Cheers mate.

frau kaleun · 07-12-11, 05:25 PM

The change into wet weather gear is triggered when the weather crosses the line into "storm conditions," determined IIRC by wind speed and the level of precipitation (if any). The same thing also determines whether or not you can use your guns.

The All Weather Guns mod changes the definition of "storm conditions" so that no matter how bad the weather gets, it never triggers the game to disallow the use of guns. However since the same trigger is used to put your watch crew in their wet weather gear, that never happens either.

So, there's no "conflict" as such, it's just that both things are tied to the same trigger: how the game defines what constitutes "storm conditions." So it's a trade-off, either you get guns in all weather, or you get a watch crew that puts on oilskins when the weather gets bad. You can't have both.

f4wildweasel · 07-12-11, 05:50 PM

But if I wear my Sou'wester, nobody will see my Knight's Cross!

HW3 · 07-12-11, 06:44 PM

If I remember correctly, the trigger for wet weather gear and manning guns is wind 11 mps in GWX.

frau kaleun · 07-12-11, 07:15 PM

It's lower for Type IIs - 9 m/s, I think.

Fish In The Water · 07-12-11, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frau kaleun

So it's a trade-off, either you get guns in all weather, or you get a watch crew that puts on oilskins when the weather gets bad. You can't have both.

Quite correct.

Kapt Z · 07-12-11, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frau kaleun

It's lower for Type IIs - 9 m/s, I think.

Yep. Out in a type II now with a 9m/s storm(just overcast, no precip) and my guys are already in their slicks.

Paul Riley · 07-13-11, 03:28 AM

Thanks guys.

I cant live without my oillskins,so the all weather guns will have to go

Return to port,restart patrol.The bloody war will have ended by the time we get sorted with the bloody mods *yawn*

Paul Riley · 07-13-11, 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by f4wildweasel

But if I wear my Sou'wester, nobody will see my Knight's Cross!

We cant have that!

Canovaro · 07-13-11, 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Riley

The bloody war will have ended by the time we get sorted with the bloody mods

Highly quotable.

Paul Riley · 07-13-11, 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canovaro

Highly quotable.

hahaha,well its true!

07-12-11, 03:43 PM	#1
Paul Riley Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sheffield, England Posts: 2,679 Downloads: 165 Uploads: 0	Watch crew not changing into wet gear Evening all, Just breaking out of the Skageraak as I speak and it looks like the weather is turning,with distant thunder heard in the distance,wind is choppy at 9 mps.I ordered a quick periscope dive then surface to get the men into their 'wet gear' (I know its only cosmetic but I enjoy rough weather and getting the men into their seal skins) only to find they are still dressed as if ready to get the deck chairs out Any ideas on this 'glitch'?. NOTE - I have a mod called 'grey leather crew' by Fubar installed as part of my mods collection,but I cant imagine this being a problem as it only gives the watch officer a grey leather jacket from what I can tell. Thanks in advance. __________________ Best Patrol: 10 merchants + HMS Nelson for 68.056 Tonnes

07-12-11, 04:09 PM	#2
Paul Riley Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sheffield, England Posts: 2,679 Downloads: 165 Uploads: 0	Are precipitations the key trigger for wet gear? Is there a particular trigger for the wet gear in the game,I mean,no matter how high the waves are does there have to be precipitations of SOME kind no matter how light? In my case the exact weather conditions are: clouds overcast, precipitations none, vis reduced, wind 9 mps. Thanks __________________ Best Patrol: 10 merchants + HMS Nelson for 68.056 Tonnes

07-12-11, 05:15 PM	#3
Paul Riley Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sheffield, England Posts: 2,679 Downloads: 165 Uploads: 0	A quick question for you Jim, Out of interest regarding this issue,I do have your 'guns in all weather + ammo' mods installed,could this be causing a conflict?.The concept of the mod is fantastic but could it cause problems with the crew changing into wet gear?,rendering the transition 'stuck' in effect?.I hope not because being able to attack in rough seas really appeals to me even if it is not historically very accurate...sort of. Cheers mate. __________________ Best Patrol: 10 merchants + HMS Nelson for 68.056 Tonnes

07-12-11, 06:44 PM	#6
HW3 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gresham Oregon Posts: 6,574 Downloads: 458 Uploads: 0	If I remember correctly, the trigger for wet weather gear and manning guns is wind 11 mps in GWX. __________________ "Some ships are designed to sink...others require our assistance." Nathan Zelk

07-13-11, 03:28 AM	#10
Paul Riley Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sheffield, England Posts: 2,679 Downloads: 165 Uploads: 0	Thanks guys. I cant live without my oillskins,so the all weather guns will have to go Return to port,restart patrol.The bloody war will have ended by the time we get sorted with the bloody mods yawn __________________ Best Patrol: 10 merchants + HMS Nelson for 68.056 Tonnes

07-12-11, 05:25 PM	#4
frau kaleun Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skyri--oh who are we kidding, I'm probably at Lowe's. Again. Posts: 12,706 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 0	The change into wet weather gear is triggered when the weather crosses the line into "storm conditions," determined IIRC by wind speed and the level of precipitation (if any). The same thing also determines whether or not you can use your guns. The All Weather Guns mod changes the definition of "storm conditions" so that no matter how bad the weather gets, it never triggers the game to disallow the use of guns. However since the same trigger is used to put your watch crew in their wet weather gear, that never happens either. So, there's no "conflict" as such, it's just that both things are tied to the same trigger: how the game defines what constitutes "storm conditions." So it's a trade-off, either you get guns in all weather, or you get a watch crew that puts on oilskins when the weather gets bad. You can't have both.

07-12-11, 05:50 PM	#5
f4wildweasel Seaman Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 40 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 0	But if I wear my Sou'wester, nobody will see my Knight's Cross!

07-12-11, 07:15 PM	#7
frau kaleun Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skyri--oh who are we kidding, I'm probably at Lowe's. Again. Posts: 12,706 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 0	It's lower for Type IIs - 9 m/s, I think.