yay more inflation

[nikimcbee]

Price of milk has gone up by 10 cents here. So, if I'm not mistaken, in the last three months, it has gone up 20 cents.

[AVGWarhawk]

Everything is up. Attribute it to higher fuel prices to get the product to the stores. Higher prices to run the farm tractors. Higher prices to run the milking machines. It all ends up coming out of our pockets if we want milk and cookies.

[UnderseaLcpl]

Relax, McBee. This is all part of our plan to save the earth. We are using corn to create ethanol fuels that are good for the environment. To do that, we need land that cows used to use. And other livestock and crops. And stuff. Thus far, we have succeeded in creating a gasoline product that is 10% corn-ethanol, and will reduce our carbon emissions by...um...well nothing actually. In fact it has increased our carbon footprint, but it's the thought that counts, right? The water included in the ethanol may damage your engine, but don't sweat it, you can just go buy a new car. Make sure you get one of the new ones that is designed to use ethanol fuel. They won't be any less susceptible to water damage or fuel-efficient than the vehicle you have now, but they are designed to use ethanol fuel.

Also, this green industry is unprofitable, so we're going to need you to contribute some of your income, if you don't mind. It's your choice of course, you can either help us save the planet or go to jail. Thanks in advance for your generosity and environmental consciousness. This is our Earth, after all.

[frau kaleun]

[Gargamel]

Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

To do that, we need land that cows used to use.

I know that was tongue in cheek, but the problem with that point of view is that the US government pays farmers to NOT grow corn. They get paid to not do what they're supposed to do. I can go for a Lima bean shortage if it means more farmers are growing corn and dropping our fuel prices.

And yes, the carbon footprint of ethanol vs petroleum is smaller. Just look at the infrastructure for each. Ethanol will be our hold over fuel until something better comes along.

[UnderseaLcpl]

Originally Posted by frau kaleun

Look on the bright side, frau. This rise in bacon prices saves the earth, as well as our precious pigs, which we can then use for bacon. It may not make sense now, but it will all come together perfectly if you will just vote for us. We promise. Honest. Just press that button in the voting booth and you will receive bacon.

[UnderseaLcpl]

Originally Posted by Gargamel

I know that was tongue in cheek, but the problem with that point of view is that the US government pays farmers to NOT grow corn. They get paid to not do what they're supposed to do. I can go for a Lima bean shortage if it means more farmers are growing corn and dropping our fuel prices.

Excellent analysis, Gargamel. You are mostly correct. The government does, indeed, pay farmers to not grow corn. It also pays them an inflated price for the corn they do grow. It's all part of a subsidy system that is so complex and counterproductive that I cannot begin to understand it. Supposedly it helps farmers, not that it has at all saved them from being dominated by agribusiness, which curiously reaps many of the same subsidies and price controls for some reason.

I could also use an increase in the corn supply and the resultant drop in corn prices, but somehow, that's not what's happening. We have, through state intervention, managed to achieve the impossible. We have increased the production of a product and simultaneously managed to make it more expensive at the same time. And we did it all for our own good and the good of the planet.

And yes, the carbon footprint of ethanol vs petroleum is smaller. Just look at the infrastructure for each. Ethanol will be our hold over fuel until something better comes along.

From whence did you obtain this bizarre supposition? I tried to look it up but I find no credible champions of ethanol, other than the lobbies and some eco-tards. I reserve judgement, but I am curious.

[kraznyi_oktjabr]

Cows can keep their pasture's...

Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algae_fuel

EDIT: Nothing new but interesting http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/gener...rst%20Public%2

[les green01]

you guys just got to know where to find them once you find one or two you get some pails and a stool just make sure you are trying to milk the right sex or just find a farm with a single daughter and the only daugther make your move when daddy dies you got the farm

[UnderseaLcpl]

Originally Posted by kraznyi_oktjabr

Cows can keep their pasture's...

Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algae_fuel

I'll buy that when the free market makes it feasible and practicable and not a moment before.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by les green01

you guys just got to know where to find them once you find one or two you get some pails and a stool just make sure you are trying to milk the right sex or just find a farm with a single daughter and the only daugther make your move when daddy dies you got the farm

Unless daddy catches on, in which case you just bought the farm.

[GoldenRivet]

I wouldn't worry about it. We are already screwed by our own government.

our national debt will outpace the national GDP some time next year. nobody really seems to worry about it.

the reason they probably dont worry about it is they feel like congress will raise the debt ceiling - again.

once that happens we have set the stage and provided the perfect recipe for hyperinflation.

and we all know what happens to countries when hyperinflation kicks in.

just wait.

the answers will be clear all in due time.

[MaddogK]

Thats called hope and change GR.

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by MaddogK

Thats called hope and change GR.

thats right.

when you bankrupt a country, and the masses have to shovel over $10 a gallon for gasoline, and they can't afford to feed their families - more and more reliance is placed on the government to fix things.

sure, there will be people like my friends who live in the country and have gardens and chickens and pigs and cattle of their own to breed and slaughter when the time comes.

Or people like me who have perhaps a month and a half worth of canned food stashed away at any given time... and in times of desperation that could be rationed and made to last for perhaps 3 months or more.

but for 90% of the population - this spells disaster - it forces over reliance on the government and military and it firmly plants the roots of totalitarian / socialist regime types of government.

it has happened in every country that suffered from hyperinflation throughout history and i think it is pretty arrogant to think for one second that America is immune.

our government has spent out of control on pet projects and on programs government was never meant to be involved in and it is nearing the point of costing us dearly.

im not touting the end of the world, or the end of America etc etc - but what i am saying is that in a relatively short time - so far as the lifespan of nations go - America is headed for some serious negative changes very soon. perhaps we will emerge from those changes a stronger nation eventually?

the logic i use is that things got pretty bad in the soviet union... but Russia and her people survived the fall of their government and the collapse of their economy.

as different a place as america is today from just 30-40 years ago... she will br radically different one day soon and i blame it on two things.

1. Government has overstepped its bounds on so many things, and has become this sprawling money spewing beast.

2. The people - the majority of them don't give a big enough crap about the situation as long as they can afford to feed their own greed. as long as big screen TVs, gasoline, SUVs and the like are affordable in the USA - you can get the people to do anything you want... they will submit to anything.

[Tchocky]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...e=domesticNews

U.S. inflation is likely to climb higher than previously thought but the recovery will not stall as interest rates will be held down until early next year, according to the latest Reuters poll of economists.

Just a poll, not worth paper printed on, economics is a profession that advances by funerals etc etc etc