SUBSIM Radio Room Forums



SUBSIM: The Web's #1 resource for all submarine & naval simulations since 1997

Go Back   SUBSIM Radio Room Forums > General > General Topics
Forget password? Reset here

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-28-11, 01:52 PM   #1
Armistead
Rear Admiral
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: on the Dan
Posts: 10,880
Downloads: 364
Uploads: 0


Default Double dip recession

Many factors say we're heading for a double dip recession. Here in NC the unemployment numbers are again on the rise after some minor employment growth. Rising gas cost, the debate over the debt ceiling and most of the bailout money has been worked through the system, so it's basically gone. Foreclosure in NC are higher now than anytime in the past, so housing market still is bad.

Food and gas now take an average of 16% of income for most middle class.

Hoping we don't see a double dip, but seems very possible. As many economist stated the bailouts were done so poorly, we got little bang for the buck, except corporations made some great profits. With interest rates at an all time low, it helps the stock market some, but with it
comes inflation. Last I checked the Central bank already had interest rates to 0, simply not anything else they can do.

Last edited by Armistead; 04-28-11 at 03:07 PM.
Armistead is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-11, 03:08 PM   #2
TorpX
Silent Hunter
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 3,975
Downloads: 153
Uploads: 11
Default

Double dip? I feel like we're still in the first dip. (I know technically we are out of the recession.)

Not only were the bailouts done poorly, but I think they should not have been done at all. I tend to believe that many who signed off on the bailouts were swept up in the panic. They should have known better. The money was absolutely wasted. Criminal ineptitude.

BTW, I don't know of any article of the Constitution, which gives the Federal Gov't the authority to do this.


TorpX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-11, 06:34 PM   #3
gimpy117
Ocean Warrior
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Kalamazoo, MI
Posts: 3,243
Downloads: 108
Uploads: 0
Default

double dip? but corporate profits are up!! who cares about middle america!! money, money money!!!
__________________
Member of the Subsim Zombie Army
gimpy117 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-11, 07:04 PM   #4
August
Wayfaring Stranger
 
August's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 23,197
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gimpy117 View Post
double dip? but corporate profits are up!! who cares about middle america!! money, money money!!!
What do you care about Middle Class America Gimpy?

Didn't you say recently that you made only $500 bucks last year? That would put you firmly in the Poor Class ranks, well out of the Middle Class bracket.

Don't forget that real Middle Class Americans usually have a stock portfolio. To us larger corporate profits mean larger dividends.
__________________


Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.
August is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-11, 07:55 PM   #5
Fish In The Water
Prince of
the Sea


SUBSIM
Welcome
Committee

 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Watching over U-253
Posts: 3,527
Downloads: 98
Uploads: 2
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by August View Post
Don't forget that real Middle Class Americans usually have a stock portfolio. To us larger corporate profits mean larger dividends.
It's a good point, (and one that's often overlooked by those who advocate class warfare), but at the risk of being nit-picky what's with the word 'real' in that sentence?

Did you intend to imply there is such a thing as 'unreal' or 'fake' Middle Class Americans? Or, (as would seem more likely), did you mean it the sense of 'actual' Middle Class Americans?
Fish In The Water is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-11, 08:21 PM   #6
gimpy117
Ocean Warrior
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Kalamazoo, MI
Posts: 3,243
Downloads: 108
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by August View Post
Didn't you say recently that you made only $500 bucks last year?
no that what they took out of my paycheck. I made like 3 grand in the summer, had 4 something at the end with some gifts for college.

I care about the middle class because it's my future
__________________
Member of the Subsim Zombie Army
gimpy117 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-11, 08:24 PM   #7
August
Wayfaring Stranger
 
August's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 23,197
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fish In The Water View Post
It's a good point, (and one that's often overlooked by those who advocate class warfare), but at the risk of being nit-picky what's with the word 'real' in that sentence?

Did you intend to imply there is such a thing as 'unreal' or 'fake' Middle Class Americans? Or, (as would seem more likely), did you mean it the sense of 'actual' Middle Class Americans?
I'll take door number two Monty.
__________________


Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.
August is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-11, 08:25 PM   #8
August
Wayfaring Stranger
 
August's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 23,197
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gimpy117 View Post
no that what they took out of my paycheck. I made like 3 grand in the summer, had 4 something at the end with some gifts for college.

I care about the middle class because it's my future
Got a portfolio yet?
__________________


Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.
August is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-11, 08:39 PM   #9
Fish In The Water
Prince of
the Sea


SUBSIM
Welcome
Committee

 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Watching over U-253
Posts: 3,527
Downloads: 98
Uploads: 2
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by August View Post
I'll take door number two Monty.
I only got one door and stop calling me Monty...
Fish In The Water is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:54 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1995- 2025 Subsim®
"Subsim" is a registered trademark, all rights reserved.