Cousin of wikileaks thread: China aiding Taliban

[TLAM Strike]

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/gener...n&channel=awst

A British military official contends that Chinese specialists have been seen training Taliban fighters in the use of infrared-guided surface-to-air missiles. This is supported by a May 13, 2008, classified U.S. State Department document released by WikiLeaks telling U.S. officials to confront Chinese officials about missile proliferation.

Not limited to Afghanistan either.

“In April 2008, coalition forces recovered from a cache in Basra, Iraq, at least two Chinese-produced Iranian-supplied QW-1 manpads that we assess were provided by Iran to Iraqi Shia militants. The date of production for the recovered QW-1 systems is 2003, but it is not known when these particular launchers were transferred by China to Iran or when the launchers entered Iraq,” the cable says. “Beijing has typically responded by asserting that its sales are in accordance with international law, that it requires end-users to sign agreements pledging not to retransfer the weapons, or—disingenuously in the judgment of [U.S. government] technical experts—that it cannot confirm that the weapons recovered by coalition forces in Iraq are actually Chinese in origin.”

When I tried to reach Tehran for comment all I got was this:

China is bribing our "Allies" to switch sides...

In fact, the Wiki*Leaks trove of State Department documents reveals a confrontation between the U.S. and Chinese ambassadors in Kyrgyzstan. The U.S. official, Tatiana Gfoeller, asked Zhang Yannian in early 2009 about a covert attempt by China to bribe the Kyrgyz government with $3 billion in cash to close the U.S. military base at Manas, which is a primary logistics center for operations in Afghanistan.

I've said it before... who wants to bet OBL is hiding in Xinjiang Province in western China?

[GoldenRivet]

The plot thickens

[Freiwillige]

Good ol' commies never change there stripes. Go figure we bail them out of WWII which was a mistake looking at things then they turn on us in human waves in Korea 6 years later!

MacArthur was right.

Typical commie bastages!

Go figure we bail them out of WWII which was a mistake looking at things then they turn on us in human waves in Korea 6 years later!

Go figure, you jump in to a suspended years old civil war for your own advantage, the side in that civil war you are really backing ends up hoofing it to an offshore island when things turn out bad for them and you are somehow surprised when the other side isn't very friendly afterwards.

Funny isn't it, you are complaining about the actions of a govt. and its relations to your country in the 1950s when your govt. didn't even recognise the govt. of that country until 1971.

[Skybird]

Remember the Rwanda genocide. In the weeks before it broke loose, the Chinese delivered shiploads of machetes. Not firearms - machetes. Most of the killing and torturing and hacking was done with these.

[krashkart]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Remember the Rwanda genocide. In the weeks before it broke loose, the Chinese delivered shiploads of machetes. Not firearms - machetes. Most of the killing and torturing and hacking was done with these.

That I did not know.


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Am I going to Hell for that?

[Oberon]

Can't say I'm surprised. China needs the US to have its attention focused elsewhere.

[Blood_splat]

Who cares we all save big at Walmart.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Can't say I'm surprised. China needs the US to have its attention focused elsewhere.

I think it is more along the lines of China needing the US to continue to spend money in Afghanistan. They send a few thousand in supplies and the US spends a few billion trying in vain to take those supplies away. Makes for good business sense if you can gut you competitor for pennies.

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

I think it is more along the lines of China needing the US to continue to spend money in Afghanistan. They send a few thousand in supplies and the US spends a few billion trying in vain to take those supplies away. Makes for good business sense if you can gut you competitor for pennies.

Yea its all fun and games until a US Patrol finds the body of a PLA adviser with some Taliban after a drone strike. Then we start getting in to Casus Belli stuff...

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Yea its all fun and games until a US Patrol finds the body of a PLA adviser with some Taliban after a drone strike. Then we start getting in to Casus Belli stuff...

I doubt we'll ever see that. These type of things tend not to unfold like they do in Tom Clancy novels.

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

I doubt we'll ever see that. These type of things tend not to unfold like they do in Tom Clancy novels.

Like the Gulf of Tonkin?

[krashkart]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

I doubt we'll ever see that. These type of things tend not to unfold like they do in Tom Clancy novels.

Behind every war that doesn't happen are diplomats doing a very good job, IME.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Like the Gulf of Tonkin?

No, much more like Vietnam itself. Nothing sexy about it.

[Diopos]

C'mon guys, it all gets down to Asia being a strategic No-No for the west. At least within the present mind-set of western strategists and operational planners. We have ground troops there for almost 10 years now and we still look like awkward teenagers going to their first party!



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