Meh, what else is new?

Torvald Von Mansee · 11-27-10, 10:10 AM

http://healthland.time.com/2010/11/2...-less-empathy/

August · 11-27-10, 10:36 AM

So how does that explain you?

GoldenRivet · 11-27-10, 11:17 AM

Just another blind thrust in the pointless class warfare your master has told you you must fight on his behalf.

CCIP · 11-27-10, 11:22 AM

It's not really surprising. People are conditioned by the social environment you grow up in. Say what you want, but there's a massive difference between growing up in a poor and rich family. You're exposed to very different influences and values. This has been scientifically observed, and I'm not talking about this article, which IMO takes things in a very weird way.

So while I think the conclusion here is waaaaaaaay farfetched and unscientific, it still rings true that fundamentally, where you grow up socioeconomically shapes you in very profound ways. In some ways, there is indeed a bigger cultural distance between wealthier people within the same country, than between people from similar social circumstances in different countries

GoldenRivet · 11-27-10, 11:27 AM

@ CCIP... True.

Our family, as recently as my parents childhood... the home had a dirt floor

i was fortunate enough that they received scholarships to college and excelled in their chosen careers.

of course success takes time, and for the first 12 years of my life we ate a lot of spaghetti if you know what i mean.

I've had a taste of both lifestyles to some extent. I have seen low lifes who wanted to rely on everyone else to get ahead... and i have seen hard working people who wanted to change their situation by their own effort.

perhaps that is the reason im so hard on those who just quit on life and choose to live on the hard work of others.

the_tyrant · 11-27-10, 11:30 AM

well, this explains the evil rich guy stereotype

CCIP · 11-27-10, 11:36 AM

Yeah, I think this "we must hate rich people for being rich" attitude that some 'social justice advocates' take is really stupid. I dislike the general attitude to wealth that many rich people take, but I wouldn't paint them with such a uniform brush. There are good and bad influences everywhere, and by all means those who have business initiative and work ethic don't deserve to be called insensitive or dangerous any more than the poor in general deserve being called lazy. There are good and bad influences in all social classes, and honestly while you can't choose where you're born, parenting can make a huge differences to what influences their children take away from their upbringing with them, wherever they end up socially. By the same token, you can blame poor minority populations' cultures for keeping their kids dumb, violent gangster material - just that this would be less politically correct and today is not said as much. Granted, it is actually no more true than the 'evil rich' stereotype - things are a lot more complex than that. But I think inciting division and class warfare, from either side of the spectrum, is an absolutely stupid thing.

11-27-10, 10:10 AM	#1
Torvald Von Mansee Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: CA4528 Posts: 1,693 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Meh, what else is new? http://healthland.time.com/2010/11/2...-less-empathy/ __________________ "You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you" - Leon Trotsky

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August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,197 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	So how does that explain you? __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

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GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	Just another blind thrust in the pointless class warfare your master has told you you must fight on his behalf. __________________

11-27-10, 11:22 AM	#4
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	It's not really surprising. People are conditioned by the social environment you grow up in. Say what you want, but there's a massive difference between growing up in a poor and rich family. You're exposed to very different influences and values. This has been scientifically observed, and I'm not talking about this article, which IMO takes things in a very weird way. So while I think the conclusion here is waaaaaaaay farfetched and unscientific, it still rings true that fundamentally, where you grow up socioeconomically shapes you in very profound ways. In some ways, there is indeed a bigger cultural distance between wealthier people within the same country, than between people from similar social circumstances in different countries __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

11-27-10, 11:27 AM	#5
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	@ CCIP... True. Our family, as recently as my parents childhood... the home had a dirt floor i was fortunate enough that they received scholarships to college and excelled in their chosen careers. of course success takes time, and for the first 12 years of my life we ate a lot of spaghetti if you know what i mean. I've had a taste of both lifestyles to some extent. I have seen low lifes who wanted to rely on everyone else to get ahead... and i have seen hard working people who wanted to change their situation by their own effort. perhaps that is the reason im so hard on those who just quit on life and choose to live on the hard work of others. __________________

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the_tyrant Admiral Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 2,272 Downloads: 58 Uploads: 0	well, this explains the evil rich guy stereotype

11-27-10, 11:36 AM	#7
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Yeah, I think this "we must hate rich people for being rich" attitude that some 'social justice advocates' take is really stupid. I dislike the general attitude to wealth that many rich people take, but I wouldn't paint them with such a uniform brush. There are good and bad influences everywhere, and by all means those who have business initiative and work ethic don't deserve to be called insensitive or dangerous any more than the poor in general deserve being called lazy. There are good and bad influences in all social classes, and honestly while you can't choose where you're born, parenting can make a huge differences to what influences their children take away from their upbringing with them, wherever they end up socially. By the same token, you can blame poor minority populations' cultures for keeping their kids dumb, violent gangster material - just that this would be less politically correct and today is not said as much. Granted, it is actually no more true than the 'evil rich' stereotype - things are a lot more complex than that. But I think inciting division and class warfare, from either side of the spectrum, is an absolutely stupid thing. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)