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Pelosi refuses to step down and give up the gavel...
![]() http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101105/...use_leadership The Prez responds... ![]()
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Never wish for this. NEVER
![]() The story of the 1993 parliamentary crisis is a tragic one, and is one of three main reasons I will never be able to forgive Yeltsin. "Parliamentary crisis" as such is also a great euphemism to hide what really happened in those days - and let's make no bs about it - an all-out, violent civil war between the legislative and executive branches of government. The executive decidedly won. NEVER wish for this to happen, because that's death of democracy as such. To me personally, having been in Russia when this was happening, this was a more defining a moment of my lifetime than Sept 11th (even if objectively, Sept 11th repercussions are more global). According to some sources, about 3,000 people died - a similar figure to Sept 11th. More importantly, this is where many people's faith in a safe, democratic Russia also died - and a year later, Yeltsin made a gambit to repair his reputation through a "fast and victorious" war in Chechnya. This is also the point where Russia's current style of presidential leadership, so often blamed on Putin rather than Yeltsin, was almost irreversibly set. I know the alternative (i.e. commies) wasn't pretty either, but honestly, this is just something that put history on a path that can't easily be derailed now. The train has passed. 1993 was the year that my family began seriously considering emigration. By early 1995, we didn't see any other option but to leave the country, all because of precisely THIS. Here's a favourite Russian song written about these events, with more video from the ground... always sticks in my mind, quite painfully at that: |
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I was there 6 months after it happened! Here's 1 picture I took from behind the Bely Dom:
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You gotta give some due irony for torching the white house black. I'm sure we all wish for it sometimes
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OMG!!! CCIP, the wall in the video at 6 min, that is where my photo is from, I was FREEKIN there when they erected that cross monument!!!!
I have a bunch of pitures from that wall!!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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![]() I was there the day they erected the cross there. I have more pix of that day, but I need to find them and scan them. We got there right as the demonstration/memorial started. I had never seen so many police in my life! ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Is there a translation of the lyrics, CCIP?
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The only one I know of was made by me...
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Now to get Krashkart hooked on Russian music....
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![]() ![]() A man after my own heart! This also happens to be perhaps my favourite song of all time. Means a lot to me, it really does ![]() Translation for that one... Quote:
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This is probably one of my favorite Russian songs:
My new favorite Russian song, I think I understand most of it.
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Yep, Talkov is one in a long line of late Soviet-era rock musicians and songwriters tragically lost
![]() The former still writes some really biting songs, too. DDT has really taken a turn in a very modern, industrial music direction, but the lyrics still hit that spot. Dunno if you've seen their new stuff, but it's pretty easy to tell what it's all about: http://vimeo.com/14128856 Quote:
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![]() That song made me think of this song: and this song:
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Now to switch gears:
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