King's niece defends rally on anniversary of "I Have a Dream" speech

Gerald · 08-28-10, 10:13 AM

(CNN) -- The Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.'s niece is slated to speak Saturday at a controversial rally by radio talk show host Glenn Beck scheduled to take place in the same location as her uncle's "I Have a Dream" speech.

Saturday is also the 47th anniversary of the speech the civil rights leader delivered in front of the Lincoln Memorial.

Beck, a hero to many conservative voters across the country, says that the mission of the rally is to honor American troops and that the event is nonpolitical. The rally is hosted by Beck and the Fox News Channel.

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/08/28...eck/index.html

Note:August 28, 2010 Updated 0951 GMT

UnderseaLcpl · 08-28-10, 10:31 AM

I can't believe the negative attention this is generating in the press, and apparently around the country. It's been on TV all morning and most of the commentary has been, at best, contemptuous. 'Cept on Fox, naturally.

I guess I don't understand why this perfectly reasonable example of public assembly is getting so much flak from the left. I thought liberals were supposed to be advocates of freedom, human rights, and tolerance. So what is this junk?-

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"It's offensive because it's out of line with the fact. It's out of line with the truth," Michael Fauntroy, an assistant professor of public policy at George Mason University, said Friday on CNN's "American Morning." "The reality is that the conservative movement in America historically has always opposed expansion of civil rights for all kinds of people."

Ok so now it's offensive when they (not the same guys from 5 decades ago) excercise a perfectly normal right in a lawful fashion? Does that not make sense to anyone else?

yubba · 08-28-10, 10:54 AM

Liberals are not advocates of anybodies civil liberties or freedoms, but their own. The liberal media sure is trying to put a negative spin on this ,they sure betted on the wrong horse.

ETR3(SS) · 08-28-10, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

I can't believe the negative attention this is generating in the press, and apparently around the country. It's been on TV all morning and most of the commentary has been, at best, contemptuous. 'Cept on Fox, naturally.

I guess I don't understand why this perfectly reasonable example of public assembly is getting so much flak from the left. I thought liberals were supposed to be advocates of freedom, human rights, and tolerance. So what is this junk?-

Ok so now it's offensive when they (not the same guys from 5 decades ago) excercise a perfectly normal right in a lawful fashion? Does that not make sense to anyone else?

Yeah I'm kinda confused here too. Wasn't it the Democratic party of the time that supported segregation?

Tchocky · 08-28-10, 11:04 AM

Ech, I feel the same way about that 200-foot statue of Osama Bin Laden I hear Obama is building beside Ground Zero - don't like it that much, would prefer it didn't go ahead, but that situation is still preferable to it being prohibited.

UnderseaLcpl · 08-28-10, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky

Ech, I feel the same way about that 200-foot statue of Osama Bin Laden I hear Obama is building beside Ground Zero - don't like it that much, would prefer it didn't go ahead, but that situation is still preferable to it being prohibited.

You jest, but protection of freedoms is that important to some people, including this person. If someone wanted to build a statue of Bin Laden, you would see me protesting it, but not advocating its prohibition.

Ducimus · 08-28-10, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

I can't believe the negative attention this is generating in the press,

Know what, it's working on me. Cause seriously, when on the front page msn.com i see this headline:

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'America Today Begins to Turn Back to God'

My first reaction is "**** YOU! you god damn religious ******** intent on ramrodding your dogma until were all living under your freaking THEORCRACY! Like a god damn christian version of IRAN!"

I have no desire to read a god damn thing after that. That head line ALONE was enough to make me pound my fist, because it struck JUST the right cord.

If it someones intent is to push me further away from the republican party... it's working. That headline REALLY pissed me off. I hate having religion ramrodded with a passion. Any group ran by the religious right, will NOT get my vote. They are too extreme, too one sided, too near sighted, hipocritical, preach tolerance when they have none, and every other negative connation i can conjur.

/end rant.

Takeda Shingen · 08-28-10, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

My first reaction is "**** YOU! you god damn religious bastards intent on ramrodding your dogma bullschit until were all living under your freaking THEORCRACY! Like a god damn christian version of IRAN!"

I have no desire to read a god damn thing after that. That head line ALONE was enough to make me pound my fist, because it struck JUST the right cord.

If it someones intent is to push me further away from the republican party... it's working. That headline REALLY pissed me off. I hate having religion ramrodded with a passion. Any group ran by the religious right, will NOT get my vote. They are too extreme, too one sided, too near sighted, hipocritical, preach tolerance when they have none, and every other negative connation i can conjur.

/end rant.

For what it's worth, I feel the same way. I have never believed that God and politics made a good pair.

UnderseaLcpl · 08-28-10, 01:35 PM

@ Tak and Duc... you know what, you're Deuce to me from now on. That sounds cool enough to be a nickname, and it fits with my prerogative of developing a short name for everyone.

I doubt the Republican party is trying to attract either one of you, at least, not here. I'm a pretty devout Christian and they aren't doing much to attract me, either. I prefer that religion become seperate from policy.

As we all know, the GOP has a very strong and active Christian demographic that they cannot afford to lose, so they will continue to court their vote. Politically speaking, you just can't put a price on that kind of often blind) devotion, so don't expect them to do anything differently unless the Dems, many years from now, make a successful play for the religious right.

All that aside, these people still have a right to assemble and they have a right to their views. There is no sense in directing your anger or efforts at them. It would be better spent ensuring that they are not given a tool with which to make religious priorities policy.

tater · 08-28-10, 01:43 PM

Except the headline is on MSN.

If a democrat read (and believed) all the headlines on Fox, they'd be pounding their fists, too, no?

The left and right play this religious nonsense.

You get the "religious right" on one side, and apologists for Islamic fundies on the other. All the "religious right" inspired attacks (abortion bombings, etc) in the country have harmed under 2 dozen people. Islam has a higher body count, so I'll worry about them first.

The left thinks nothing at all about supporting religious bigots like the Nation of Islam morons, for example. Listen to any of the speeches at that so-called "million man march?" Did you notice the disconnect between the bits shown on the network news, and the hate-fest stuff they left on the editing room floor?

mookiemookie · 08-28-10, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

You jest, but protection of freedoms is that important to some people, including this person. If someone wanted to build a statue of Bin Laden, you would see me protesting it, but not advocating its prohibition.

That's exactly what lefties are doing here. Protesting the offensiveness of it, but not calling for it not to take place. No matter what strawmans people here want to put up.

yubba · 08-28-10, 03:26 PM

I wonder what the ruling class thought of it , hope they didn't choke on their lobster. Wonder how the lap dog media will spin this, they said god bless America and prayed for our president and congress. I stand corrected this is the most beautiful sound I ever heard

Sailor Steve · 08-28-10, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

/end rant.

The rant is understandable. The language is not.

Konovalov · 08-28-10, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

The rant is understandable. The language is not.

What about a Subsim donations box for every language bleep?

Takeda Shingen · 08-28-10, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Konovalov

What about a Subsim donations box for every language bleep?

A SubSim swear jar.

08-28-10, 10:13 AM	#1
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	King's niece defends rally on anniversary of "I Have a Dream" speech (CNN) -- The Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.'s niece is slated to speak Saturday at a controversial rally by radio talk show host Glenn Beck scheduled to take place in the same location as her uncle's "I Have a Dream" speech. Saturday is also the 47th anniversary of the speech the civil rights leader delivered in front of the Lincoln Memorial. Beck, a hero to many conservative voters across the country, says that the mission of the rally is to honor American troops and that the event is nonpolitical. The rally is hosted by Beck and the Fox News Channel. http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/08/28...eck/index.html Note:August 28, 2010 Updated 0951 GMT __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

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Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Ech, I feel the same way about that 200-foot statue of Osama Bin Laden I hear Obama is building beside Ground Zero - don't like it that much, would prefer it didn't go ahead, but that situation is still preferable to it being prohibited. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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UnderseaLcpl Silent Hunter Join Date: May 2008 Location: Storming the beaches! Posts: 4,254 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	@ Tak and Duc... you know what, you're Deuce to me from now on. That sounds cool enough to be a nickname, and it fits with my prerogative of developing a short name for everyone. I doubt the Republican party is trying to attract either one of you, at least, not here. I'm a pretty devout Christian and they aren't doing much to attract me, either. I prefer that religion become seperate from policy. As we all know, the GOP has a very strong and active Christian demographic that they cannot afford to lose, so they will continue to court their vote. Politically speaking, you just can't put a price on that kind of often blind) devotion, so don't expect them to do anything differently unless the Dems, many years from now, make a successful play for the religious right. All that aside, these people still have a right to assemble and they have a right to their views. There is no sense in directing your anger or efforts at them. It would be better spent ensuring that they are not given a tool with which to make religious priorities policy. __________________ I stole this sig from Task Force

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yubba Admiral Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: in a neighborhood near you Posts: 2,478 Downloads: 293 Uploads: 2	I wonder what the ruling class thought of it , hope they didn't choke on their lobster. Wonder how the lap dog media will spin this, they said god bless America and prayed for our president and congress. I stand corrected this is the most beautiful sound I ever heard Last edited by yubba; 08-28-10 at 05:01 PM.

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yubba Admiral Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: in a neighborhood near you Posts: 2,478 Downloads: 293 Uploads: 2	Liberals are not advocates of anybodies civil liberties or freedoms, but their own. The liberal media sure is trying to put a negative spin on this ,they sure betted on the wrong horse.

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tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Except the headline is on MSN. If a democrat read (and believed) all the headlines on Fox, they'd be pounding their fists, too, no? The left and right play this religious nonsense. You get the "religious right" on one side, and apologists for Islamic fundies on the other. All the "religious right" inspired attacks (abortion bombings, etc) in the country have harmed under 2 dozen people. Islam has a higher body count, so I'll worry about them first. The left thinks nothing at all about supporting religious bigots like the Nation of Islam morons, for example. Listen to any of the speeches at that so-called "million man march?" Did you notice the disconnect between the bits shown on the network news, and the hate-fest stuff they left on the editing room floor?