Pa. High School Under Fire Over Quote FromHitler in Yearbook

Gerald · 08-27-10, 12:14 AM

A Pennsylvania high school is under fire after a quote from Adolf Hitler appeared in its 2010 student yearbook, The Express-Times reported Thursday.

Easton Area High School in Easton, Pa., reportedly unveiled its new student yearbook this month featuring a quote from the Nazi dictator that appeared prominently alongside the words of other famous leaders and authors.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/08/26...est=latestnews

Takeda Shingen · 08-27-10, 12:16 AM

Wow. That's moronic. Still, it is strange that this news is in my neck of the woods and this is the first I have heard of it.

Gerald · 08-27-10, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Wow. That's moronic. Still, it is strange that this news is in my neck of the woods and this is the first I have heard of it.

Sounds a bit too twisted

CCIP · 08-27-10, 12:59 AM

Something tells me that one reason this could have happened is that the kids didn't know who Hitler actually was. And in that case, I sure do fear for the education system

Sledgehammer427 · 08-27-10, 02:27 AM

wow.

I'm curious how that managed to get in the yearbook. I worked on our schools yearbook my senior year, everything we wrote was quadruple checked.

Somebody wasn't paying much attention.
Or didn't take their history course...I don't think Hitler is a good role model for success...unless your definition of success is being in a ditch on fire.

Castout · 08-27-10, 02:37 AM

"And in the last analysis, success is what matters," -Adolf Hitler, the fool that attacked everybody just because he thought he could.

I don't believe it was a mistake ever.

The student or whoever wrote that identify with the quote which Hitler had spoken.

It's as simple as that.

It is disturbing because when a person much more a young student identifies with that sentence then the sake of achieving goal justifies any method which actually doesn't!

When taken as an intrinsic value that sentence would make people as corrupt as their desires take and make them.

The problem is if everybody adopts the same kind of stance (even to varying degree) then everything will become chaotic, crumble and every mankind civilization and society as we know now will come to end and we all be living like savages.

That quote is A MAJOR FAIL!

Even if Hitler had won WWII and ruled the entire world.

When men regress their civilization will too. That is a guarantee!

08-27-10, 04:46 AM

I see nothing wrong with the quote.

"The end justifies the means." Machiaveli
That's a whole lot colder than the quote from Hitler, and I learned it in school.
Double standard???

antikristuseke · 08-27-10, 04:54 AM

I fail to see a problem with quoting Hitler in a school yearbook. It is not like that quote is espousing genocide or proclaiming superiority of any race over another. The fact that the person quotes was an insane little **** does not make the quote itself any less valid.

Castout · 08-27-10, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Snestorm

I see nothing wrong with the quote.

"The end justifies the means." Machiaveli
That's a whole lot colder than the quote from Hitler, and I learned it in school.
Double standard???

Machiaveli....no surprise personally I hate the guy's ideals that has inspired many crook political leaders and tyrants. Those people were or are successful because the others couldn't afford to go as low or lower . . . .It's amazing(or disgusting) how successful you can get when you live a life without moral consideration at all of course if done with proper intelligence or cunning because the truth is most capable men just can't afford reducing themselves to that kind of low point.

The motto which I believe:
Believe in nothing but your own desires, regard nothing but your own desires, do anything to make them happen. Freedom to be an anarchist without being thought one or even admitting to that. There's NO LAW from above or below to ever be heeded AT ALL but your own desires except when it's directly and as long as it is profitable. Befriend those you cannot fight against, avoid and fool those you can't win against and befriend but crush any other perceived threats otherwise, the sooner the better.

Total anarchy.
No form no ideals no principles, only desires and opportunities that come to make them happen. NOTHING IS SACRED.
Live to worship your own desires. Die in satisfaction.

Raptor1 · 08-27-10, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Castout

"And in the last analysis, success is what matters," -Adolf Hitler, the fool that attacked everybody just because he thought he could.

I don't believe it was a mistake ever.

The student or whoever wrote that identify with the quote which Hitler had spoken.

It's as simple as that.

It is disturbing because when a person much more a young student identifies with that sentence then the sake of achieving goal justifies any method which actually doesn't!

When taken as an intrinsic value that sentence would make people as corrupt as their desires take and make them.

The problem is if everybody adopts the same kind of stance (even to varying degree) then everything will become chaotic, crumble and every mankind civilization and society as we know now will come to end and we all be living like savages.

That quote is A MAJOR FAIL!

Even if Hitler had won WWII and ruled the entire world.

When men regress their civilization will too. That is a guarantee!

I would have thought whoever put it in there identifies with the quote in the sense that 'success matters', or something like that, not that it matters in any cost. Anyone who quotes Hitler in a yearbook might well be ignorant enough not to understand the meaning of the quote.

Skybird · 08-27-10, 05:30 AM

Machiaveli is easy to be misunderstood as thus to be seen as a moron. I have read his major works and an extensive biography on him by one of the leading authors about him. He wasn't that moral moron (with the exception with his many relations to women, maybe

) He just was not too sentimental when assessing what works with leading the pack, and what not. He was a very dedicated realist, and he realised that lie and betrayal as well as manipulating people are the rules by which the game of power is played. He did not say that that is good or bad - he just said that that is how it is.

I recommend his Discorsi before any other of his works.

He also ws an admirer of the early Roman republic. That he had intimate knowledge of Roman history and about the names of it's poltical figures, you can easily see in the Discorsi.

To me he is not so much showing how morally crippled he was when revealing how politics get done by manipulation. He just pointed at the obvious. seen that way, he more revealed how morally crippled we all are - because we function in that way that we accept getting manipulated if only our superficial desires get pleased.

The power of the tyrant - needs the weakness and stupdity of those he rules. Philantropists tend to deny or ignoire that, claiming that it would be offending to say that. Machiaveli just showed the obvious, even if it is no compliment for us. In principle, he was just an unsentimental realist.

On the Hitler quote, one or two guys said that nothing is wrong with it. First, I do not know the context of the quote, if he said that in a context of wiping out the Jews, than obviously the quote is far from being "okay". Second, it is not only important what a quote says, but also, who the author of that quote is. And to refer to one of the worst criminals in mankind's history in order to make a moral or otherwise claimed reasonable statement, maybe is not the best of ideas. At best it helps to reinstall that criminal's bad reputation. And one must ask if that can be wanted in the case of Hitler. what's next, then? Taking simple ohrases from his speeches and rip them out of context of his policy and deeds and putting him side by side with pacifists and great philosophers of past times?

Castout · 08-27-10, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Machiaveli is easy to be misunderstood as thus to be seen as a moron.

He's not a moron he's a jerk

.

I'm no fan obviously

Castout · 08-27-10, 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raptor1

I would have thought whoever put it in there identifies with the quote in the sense that 'success matters', or something like that, not that it matters in any cost.

It would mean that way had he not put Hitler nor Machiaveli after the sentence

.

For example
Had he written

"And in the last analysis, success is what matters," -Lord Jesus Christ

it would mean entirely different than

"And in the last analysis, success is what matters," -Adolvie Hitler

but we all know Christ never said that

Raptor1 · 08-27-10, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Castout

It would mean that way had he not put Hitler nor Machiaveli after the sentence

.

Yes, and it would also mean that way if he didn't understand the quote or who it was that said it. There are plenty of stupid people around...

EDIT: I suppose it could also have been some kind of joke as well.

By the way, I have never heard of this quote before, anyone know an actual source for it?

SteamWake · 08-27-10, 07:59 AM

Golly gee big news some kid at some obscure high school puts something stupid / provacative in their year book. Like that never happens.

Now its national news

How about that flood anyhow

08-27-10, 12:14 AM	#1
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	Pa. High School Under Fire Over Quote From Hitler in Yearbook A Pennsylvania high school is under fire after a quote from Adolf Hitler appeared in its 2010 student yearbook, The Express-Times reported Thursday. Easton Area High School in Easton, Pa., reportedly unveiled its new student yearbook this month featuring a quote from the Nazi dictator that appeared prominently alongside the words of other famous leaders and authors. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/08/26...est=latestnews __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie Last edited by Gerald; 08-27-10 at 12:01 PM.

08-27-10, 12:59 AM	#4
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Something tells me that one reason this could have happened is that the kids didn't know who Hitler actually was. And in that case, I sure do fear for the education system __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

08-27-10, 02:27 AM	#5
Sledgehammer427 PacWagon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Drinking coffee and staring at trees in Massachusetts Posts: 2,908 Downloads: 287 Uploads: 0	wow. I'm curious how that managed to get in the yearbook. I worked on our schools yearbook my senior year, everything we wrote was quadruple checked. Somebody wasn't paying much attention. Or didn't take their history course...I don't think Hitler is a good role model for success...unless your definition of success is being in a ditch on fire. __________________ Cold Waters Voice Crew - Fire Control Officer Cmdr O. Myers - C/O USS Nautilus (SS-168) 114,000 tons sunk - 4 Spec Ops completed V-boat Nutcase - Need supplies? Japanese garrison on a small island in the way? Just give us a call! D4C!

08-27-10, 02:37 AM	#6
Castout Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Jakarta Posts: 4,794 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 6	"And in the last analysis, success is what matters," -Adolf Hitler, the fool that attacked everybody just because he thought he could. I don't believe it was a mistake ever. The student or whoever wrote that identify with the quote which Hitler had spoken. It's as simple as that. It is disturbing because when a person much more a young student identifies with that sentence then the sake of achieving goal justifies any method which actually doesn't! When taken as an intrinsic value that sentence would make people as corrupt as their desires take and make them. The problem is if everybody adopts the same kind of stance (even to varying degree) then everything will become chaotic, crumble and every mankind civilization and society as we know now will come to end and we all be living like savages. That quote is A MAJOR FAIL! Even if Hitler had won WWII and ruled the entire world. When men regress their civilization will too. That is a guarantee! __________________ My blog: http://exposingsingapore.wordpress.com/

08-27-10, 05:30 AM	#11
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Machiaveli is easy to be misunderstood as thus to be seen as a moron. I have read his major works and an extensive biography on him by one of the leading authors about him. He wasn't that moral moron (with the exception with his many relations to women, maybe ) He just was not too sentimental when assessing what works with leading the pack, and what not. He was a very dedicated realist, and he realised that lie and betrayal as well as manipulating people are the rules by which the game of power is played. He did not say that that is good or bad - he just said that that is how it is. I recommend his Discorsi before any other of his works. He also ws an admirer of the early Roman republic. That he had intimate knowledge of Roman history and about the names of it's poltical figures, you can easily see in the Discorsi. To me he is not so much showing how morally crippled he was when revealing how politics get done by manipulation. He just pointed at the obvious. seen that way, he more revealed how morally crippled we all are - because we function in that way that we accept getting manipulated if only our superficial desires get pleased. The power of the tyrant - needs the weakness and stupdity of those he rules. Philantropists tend to deny or ignoire that, claiming that it would be offending to say that. Machiaveli just showed the obvious, even if it is no compliment for us. In principle, he was just an unsentimental realist. On the Hitler quote, one or two guys said that nothing is wrong with it. First, I do not know the context of the quote, if he said that in a context of wiping out the Jews, than obviously the quote is far from being "okay". Second, it is not only important what a quote says, but also, who the author of that quote is. And to refer to one of the worst criminals in mankind's history in order to make a moral or otherwise claimed reasonable statement, maybe is not the best of ideas. At best it helps to reinstall that criminal's bad reputation. And one must ask if that can be wanted in the case of Hitler. what's next, then? Taking simple ohrases from his speeches and rip them out of context of his policy and deeds and putting him side by side with pacifists and great philosophers of past times? __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

08-27-10, 12:16 AM	#2
Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Wow. That's moronic. Still, it is strange that this news is in my neck of the woods and this is the first I have heard of it.

08-27-10, 04:46 AM	#7
Snestorm Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I see nothing wrong with the quote. "The end justifies the means." Machiaveli That's a whole lot colder than the quote from Hitler, and I learned it in school. Double standard???

08-27-10, 04:54 AM	#8
antikristuseke Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Estland Posts: 4,330 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	I fail to see a problem with quoting Hitler in a school yearbook. It is not like that quote is espousing genocide or proclaiming superiority of any race over another. The fact that the person quotes was an insane little **** does not make the quote itself any less valid.

08-27-10, 07:59 AM	#15
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Golly gee big news some kid at some obscure high school puts something stupid / provacative in their year book. Like that never happens. Now its national news How about that flood anyhow __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648