More than Mexicans crossing the border (Maybe AZ has the right idea)

swdw · 05-20-10, 08:49 AM

Actual, honest to God, investigative journalism.

http://www.wsbtv.com/video/23438021/index.html
http://www.wsbtv.com/video/23438712/index.html

Should pass this on before the links expire.

Besides the mid east personnel captured, they briefly mention 20% of the
people caught have criminal records. And yet, people are talking about
blanket amnesty for illegal immigrants??? Bet the cartels would love for that to happen.

AVGWarhawk · 05-20-10, 09:37 AM

This is a long time coming swdw. Eventually we need to say stop. The folks in AZ have had enough. The Fed has turned a blind eye to drugs, murder and weapons filtering over the boarder. Not to mention the kidnapping. The real icing here is the others who cross the boarders looking to commit terrorist acts.

Please note that Obama's Rose Garden speech with the President of Mexico was less than enthusiastic....in short..Obama knows this is a problem.

SteamWake · 05-20-10, 10:00 AM

What gets me is that this has been going on for 20 years or more.

All of a sudden its an 'issue' because Arizona took steps to be able to enforce existing federal law and now it's a huge shocking issue.

AVGWarhawk · 05-20-10, 10:12 AM

Well, that is part of it SW. More recently though the drugs, weapons and kidnapping have really gone haywire...not to mention the murders of the US citizens that live close to the boarder. In short, the illegals who are doing these activities are getting much more bolder. These are cartels now. Not good.....

You are correct, the law has been around....start enforcing it and get in trouble. Makes no sense. I'm glad AZ finally took a stand...it makes DC wake up to the problem that is growing in leaps and bounds.

Tchocky · 05-20-10, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Please note that Obama's Rose Garden speech with the President of Mexico was less than enthusiastic....in short..Obama knows this is a problem.

Mm, some in the WH weren't too happy with the choice of healthcare as legislative priority #1. Immigration reform was seen as something a lot less risky, easier to get broad support on, and quicker to produce results.
I'd say there'll be a move on immigration reform before long.

EDIT - just saw your last post. AZ's move will definitely put the urgency level up.

SteamWake · 05-20-10, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky

I'd say there'll be a move on immigration reform before long.

I've been saying that only using another word for a while now.

Weiss Pinguin · 05-20-10, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

In short, the illegals who are doing these activities are getting much more bolder. These are cartels now. Not good.....

That's the bit that scares me (not the other others aren't a big concern). If we just let them do as they please, who knows what kind of bullcrap will be going on at the border (or not even that far south) in five, ten, fifteen years?

FIREWALL · 05-20-10, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

This is a long time coming swdw. Eventually we need to say stop. The folks in AZ have had enough. The Fed has turned a blind eye to drugs, murder and weapons filtering over the boarder. Not to mention the kidnapping. The real icing here is the others who cross the boarders looking to commit terrorist acts.

Please note that Obama's Rose Garden speech with the President of Mexico was less than enthusiastic....in short..Obama knows this is a problem.

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

What gets me is that this has been going on for 20 years or more.

All of a sudden its an 'issue' because Arizona took steps to be able to enforce existing federal law and now it's a huge shocking issue.

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Well, that is part of it SW. More recently though the drugs, weapons and kidnapping have really gone haywire...not to mention the murders of the US citizens that live close to the boarder. In short, the illegals who are doing these activities are getting much more bolder. These are cartels now. Not good.....

You are correct, the law has been around....start enforcing it and get in trouble. Makes no sense. I'm glad AZ finally took a stand...it makes DC wake up to the problem that is growing in leaps and bounds.

Something to think about.... If you were a Judge, Prosecutor, in Law enforcement or Ran or worked in the Prison system...

Would you want a Crime Free America ?

These's days it makes you wonder.

05-20-10, 03:09 PM

When a nation looses control of it's borders it ceases to be a nation.
Just something to think about.

GoldenRivet · 05-20-10, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Snestorm

When a nation looses control of it's borders it ceases to be a nation.
Just something to think about.

100% correct.

this has already happened, and i fear it may be too late.

05-20-10, 03:54 PM

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I've been saying that only using another word for a while now.

Yes, you was on about a secret plot to grant instant citizenship so Obama will get millions of magic votes for his party in the upcoming mid terms.
So the other word was two words...... conspiracy theory.

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I'd say there'll be a move on immigration reform before long.

Wasn't the current President pledged to a comprehensive reform of the current ineffective programs if he got elected.

Ducimus · 05-20-10, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

100% correct.

this has already happened, and i fear it may be too late.

For CA it is already too late.

Weiss Pinguin · 05-20-10, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

For CA it is already too late.

As if there was ever any hope for California

FIREWALL · 05-20-10, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Weiss Pinguin

As if there was ever any hope for California

Easy to insult another persons home when, You don't have the balls to put under your Avatar where your from.

Ducimus · 05-20-10, 05:17 PM

Guess i should change my location to "Upland Ca" instead of davy jones locker.

05-20-10, 09:37 AM	#2
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,253 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	This is a long time coming swdw. Eventually we need to say stop. The folks in AZ have had enough. The Fed has turned a blind eye to drugs, murder and weapons filtering over the boarder. Not to mention the kidnapping. The real icing here is the others who cross the boarders looking to commit terrorist acts. Please note that Obama's Rose Garden speech with the President of Mexico was less than enthusiastic....in short..Obama knows this is a problem. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

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SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	What gets me is that this has been going on for 20 years or more. All of a sudden its an 'issue' because Arizona took steps to be able to enforce existing federal law and now it's a huge shocking issue. __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

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AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,253 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Well, that is part of it SW. More recently though the drugs, weapons and kidnapping have really gone haywire...not to mention the murders of the US citizens that live close to the boarder. In short, the illegals who are doing these activities are getting much more bolder. These are cartels now. Not good..... You are correct, the law has been around....start enforcing it and get in trouble. Makes no sense. I'm glad AZ finally took a stand...it makes DC wake up to the problem that is growing in leaps and bounds. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

05-20-10, 08:49 AM	#1
swdw Grey Wolf Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 921 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	More than Mexicans crossing the border (Maybe AZ has the right idea) Actual, honest to God, investigative journalism. http://www.wsbtv.com/video/23438021/index.html http://www.wsbtv.com/video/23438712/index.html Should pass this on before the links expire. Besides the mid east personnel captured, they briefly mention 20% of the people caught have criminal records. And yet, people are talking about blanket amnesty for illegal immigrants??? Bet the cartels would love for that to happen. __________________ "There are only two types of ships- submarines...... and targets" Unknown "you wouldn't catch me on a ship that deliberately sinks itself"- comment to me from a surface sailor. System: AMD 6300 3.5 GHz \| 32GB DDR3 \| SATA 300 320GB HD, SATA III 1TB HD, SATA III 1.TB HD \| ASUS Sonar DS sound card NVIDIA 1660 Super OC \| Windows 10

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Snestorm Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	When a nation looses control of it's borders it ceases to be a nation. Just something to think about.

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Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Guess i should change my location to "Upland Ca" instead of davy jones locker.