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Old 07-19-10, 11:41 AM   #1
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Default [UNCOVERED] SH5 officially left for dead!

As the new ComDev stated and elenaiba confirmed, there is no more team working on a patch for SH5. Both call the community to get hand on mods, to enhance the game. There is no patch planned "so far". Seems, as if our badest exspectations become true...

BAAM, there it is. The truth, directly in your face.





Let me finish this and say it like Michael did:

(SH5) This is it.
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Old 07-19-10, 11:48 AM   #2
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And this is news how? Think most already knew there's no team assigned to SH5.

Doesn't mean that won't change in the future.
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Old 07-19-10, 12:10 PM   #3
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The news is SH5 is now like Schrödinger's cat. It is both alive and dead until proven one way or another. It's statements like Ubisoft's that make the universe branch
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Old 07-19-10, 12:36 PM   #4
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Old 07-19-10, 12:42 PM   #5
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i think guys are just searching for some direct quote somewhere saying "i am official ubi spokesman and we will never fix sh5 and thats it"

its obvious to anyone who looks at it without the rose colored glasses that they are done with sh5 and what we have is all we will ever get but they will never admit that to the public (its just bad for buisness to admit it)

hoping for another patch is like hoping to win the lottery, we try to convince ourselves it could happen because there is a 0.00001% chance it might
 
Old 07-19-10, 12:37 PM   #6
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I wouldn't go scaring children like that

Truth is, I've seen lots of buggy games cut from patch support. And I still can't forgive Ubi for not patching the spawning road blocks in Far Cry 2. Then there's Sh4 UBM with a buggy notepad and stadimeter, easy things to fix by the devs, but which were never fixed.

However, with all the "Silent Hunter is dead" threads and most modders jumping overboard or simply waiting for the next patch, Ubi's notorious "case closed" policy seems a bit more expected. That must be why Elanaiba and Sorlim urge us to continue to mod the game. With a bit more support from us and a more clear view of the bugs, they might persuade the suits to release another patch.

And, on the bright side, progress with SH5 mods has been stunning so far. I'm beginning to subscribe to the opinion that one year from now, SH5 will be
better than all previous titles (with mods ofc).
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Old 07-19-10, 12:45 PM   #7
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I wouldn't go scaring children like that

Truth is, I've seen lots of buggy games cut from patch support. And I still can't forgive Ubi for not patching the spawning road blocks in Far Cry 2. Then there's Sh4 UBM with a buggy notepad and stadimeter, easy things to fix by the devs, but which were never fixed.

However, with all the "Silent Hunter is dead" threads and most modders jumping overboard or simply waiting for the next patch, Ubi's notorious "case closed" policy seems a bit more expected. That must be why Elanaiba and Sorlim urge us to continue to mod the game. With a bit more support from us and a more clear view of the bugs, they might persuade the suits to release another patch.

And, on the bright side, progress with SH5 mods has been stunning so far. I'm beginning to subscribe to the opinion that one year from now, SH5 will be
better than all previous titles (with mods ofc).
Aye its true. The advancements made over the past couple weeks have been incredible. People just need to be a little more patient though, as some of them are still behind the scenes and need to be perfected.
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Old 07-19-10, 12:54 PM   #8
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after re-reading my comment i feel its important to add this:

sh5 will be a great game at some point even without ubi being involved in it anymore.

IMO it is the modders who made ubi games great and sh5 will be fixed by modders so its only a matter of giving them time.

in a year or two i think there will be a few mega mod choices that resolve "most" issues with the game and while there will still be major bugs and glitches due to ubi's unfinished work, the mods will make the rest good enough to overlook them.
 
Old 07-19-10, 05:07 PM   #9
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Aye its true. The advancements made over the past couple weeks have been incredible. People just need to be a little more patient though, as some of them are still behind the scenes and need to be perfected.
You know, I really appreciate the efforts made by the talented folks in this community. Most of the mods are very good - as good as we've seen from the professional devs - and some of them far surpass anything we've seen form the professionals.

My concern with SH5 is not about what can be done by modders, but what can't be done. If there are significant issues with SH5 that simply can't be fixed due to lack of access (legally or technically) to the affected files and code, then I would guess most of the modders will be asking themselves "what's the point?".

Some of these significant issues that no one (to my knowledge) has touched yet are:

  • Extending the campaign to 1945, which would necessarily require development or activation of the relevant techology, platforms and AI.
  • Building and importing new platforms, such as more merchant types (what do we have now... 4?)
  • Rewriting the campaign to remove the mission, target and tonnage based objectives, and restore the free flowing patrol based campaigns of SH3 and SH4.
  • AI that behaves in a reasonably believable manner.
  • Etc.
If that stuff can't be fixed, I'm never going to play it... no matter how good the water and sky look or how great the latest interface is (with apologies to those working on interfaces and environment).

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Old 07-20-10, 09:33 AM   #10
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I wouldn't go scaring children like that

Truth is, I've seen lots of buggy games cut from patch support. And I still can't forgive Ubi for not patching the spawning road blocks in Far Cry 2. Then there's Sh4 UBM with a buggy notepad and stadimeter, easy things to fix by the devs, but which were never fixed.

However, with all the "Silent Hunter is dead" threads and most modders jumping overboard or simply waiting for the next patch, Ubi's notorious "case closed" policy seems a bit more expected. That must be why Elanaiba and Sorlim urge us to continue to mod the game. With a bit more support from us and a more clear view of the bugs, they might persuade the suits to release another patch.

And, on the bright side, progress with SH5 mods has been stunning so far. I'm beginning to subscribe to the opinion that one year from now, SH5 will be
better than all previous titles (with mods ofc).
Since you mention it here, what was the problem with Far Cry 2 spawning road blocks? I know it seems weird when playing the game that you can clear a road block of guards and when you return a short time later they are all back. Is this what you're referring to? If it weren't for the respawning of guards the game would get boring very fast.
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As the new ComDev stated and elenaiba confirmed, there is no more team working on a patch for SH5. Both call the community to get hand on mods, to enhance the game. There is no patch planned "so far". Seems, as if our badest exspectations become true...

BAAM, there it is. The truth, directly in your face.





Let me finish this and say it like Michael did:

(SH5) This is it.
I told you and you didn`t listen, the last thing those monkeys cares about is clients. Got anything on they newest products?

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