Will SH5 saves be stable because they are online ?

THE_MASK · 02-24-10, 06:37 PM

Will SH5 saves be stable because they are online ? I had a terrible time with SH3 saves and the game throwing me to desktop . The SH4 huge save bug stopped me playing that as well . Will the SH5 saves have to be spot on with this auto sync saving online ?

Mud · 02-24-10, 06:45 PM

This is the year 2010.
Computer problems are gremlins from the past.

Mud

JU_88 · 02-24-10, 06:50 PM

mmmm what happens if and when the DRM is patched out? saves will be local i take it?

jwilliams · 02-24-10, 06:49 PM

From my understanding SH5 will save first on your harddrive, then upload that save to ubi and sync them.
So as long as the upload and sync of save dont use full bandwidth then OSP should still be able to talk to ubi.... if saves do use full bandwidth(which is unlikely) then game may pause til upload/ download is complete and OSP can talk to ubi again.

And as for corupt saves..... how many files have you downloaded and found them to be corupt.... it can happen but its fairly low from my experance.

jwilliams · 02-24-10, 07:10 PM

They are already saved localy....you can even turn cloud saves off.

If they patch to remove OSP from game. Then this patch would just tell the game not to look for Ubi's permition to continue.

e.g.
1. game asks Ubi every 5mins if it can continue
2. if no reply from ubi then pause
3. wait until OSP hears from ubi (if yes goto step 1.) (if no goto step 4.)
4. if pause < 20mins (goto step 3.)
5. if game is paused > 20mins exit to desktop

JScones · 02-24-10, 07:43 PM

I'm 100% certain that SH5 save games will be just as stable as they were in previous versions.

Oh, wait.

JU_88 · 02-24-10, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JScones

I'm 100% certain that SH5 save games will be just as stable as they were in previous versions.
Oh, wait.

... in all fairness, I do recall the devs saying that the save system has been given an over haul, time will tell i guess.

frenema · 02-24-10, 07:52 PM

SH3 loading time was already long enough... Now imagine loading your games from some foreign server online.

Vikinger · 02-24-10, 08:11 PM

I think most of the saves will be stored localy on our computers and just a verification code will be transmitted.

Nearly the same is it works if you use steam and games you bought through them.

SteamWake · 02-24-10, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JScones

I'm 100% certain that SH5 save games will be just as stable as they were in previous versions.

Oh, wait.

OMG soda through nose time.

Letum · 02-24-10, 11:01 PM

Back to the original question:

Quote:

Originally Posted by sober

Will SH5 saves be stable because they are online ? I had a terrible time with SH3 saves and the game throwing me to desktop . The SH4 huge save bug stopped me playing that as well . Will the SH5 saves have to be spot on with this auto sync saving online ?

SH3 and 4 did not have save problems because the saves where corrupt.
It was the programming that made and loaded the saves that was at fault,
not the saves them selves.
Files spontaneously becoming faulty is a very rare phenomenon. You are
far more likely to just have a HDD failure. So, no, your saves will not be
more reliable. If the programming that made and loaded the saves is still
poor, you will still have problems, where ever your saves are stored.

THE_MASK · 02-24-10, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Letum

Back to the original question:

SH3 and 4 did not have save problems because the saves where corrupt.
It was the programming that made and loaded the saves that was at fault,
not the saves them selves.
Files spontaneously becoming faulty is a very rare phenomenon. You are
far more likely to just have a HDD failure. So, no, your saves will not be
more reliable. If the programming that made and loaded the saves is still
poor, you will still have problems, where ever your saves are stored.

Right , so i should have suspected dodgy hard drive and overall crappy system . Right so a stable system helps to start with then . over .

Letum · 02-24-10, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sober

Right , so i should have suspected dodgy hard drive and overall crappy system . Right so a stable system helps to start with then . over .

No. A hard drive that is corrupting files will corrupt your SHx saves, but it
will also not let you run windows quite quickly. If your saves are becoming
corrupted occasionaly, then so will important windows files.

Any problems you had with SH3 saves are the result of poor programing in
the SH3 program. Not HDD corruption.

THE_MASK · 02-24-10, 11:28 PM

Ok , well lets hope better saves format in SH5 and my better system = no corrupted saves .over and out .

Highbury · 02-25-10, 01:41 AM

I don't think DRM/OPS will affect this at all. We will just have a backup of our corrupt save

Seriously though, can't know until we try it.

02-24-10, 06:37 PM	#1
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	Will SH5 saves be stable because they are online ? Will SH5 saves be stable because they are online ? I had a terrible time with SH3 saves and the game throwing me to desktop . The SH4 huge save bug stopped me playing that as well . Will the SH5 saves have to be spot on with this auto sync saving online ?

02-24-10, 06:45 PM	#2
Mud Captain Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 541 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	This is the year 2010. Computer problems are gremlins from the past. Mud __________________

02-24-10, 06:49 PM	#4
jwilliams Ace of the Deep Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,013 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	From my understanding SH5 will save first on your harddrive, then upload that save to ubi and sync them. So as long as the upload and sync of save dont use full bandwidth then OSP should still be able to talk to ubi.... if saves do use full bandwidth(which is unlikely) then game may pause til upload/ download is complete and OSP can talk to ubi again. And as for corupt saves..... how many files have you downloaded and found them to be corupt.... it can happen but its fairly low from my experance. __________________ Windows 7, 64bit. Phenom II 965BE (OC 4cores @ 3.8 Ghz). Radeon HD4870 (1gb gddr5). 6gb Ram.

02-24-10, 07:10 PM	#5
jwilliams Ace of the Deep Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,013 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	They are already saved localy....you can even turn cloud saves off. If they patch to remove OSP from game. Then this patch would just tell the game not to look for Ubi's permition to continue. e.g. 1. game asks Ubi every 5mins if it can continue 2. if no reply from ubi then pause 3. wait until OSP hears from ubi (if yes goto step 1.) (if no goto step 4.) 4. if pause < 20mins (goto step 3.) 5. if game is paused > 20mins exit to desktop __________________ Windows 7, 64bit. Phenom II 965BE (OC 4cores @ 3.8 Ghz). Radeon HD4870 (1gb gddr5). 6gb Ram.

02-24-10, 08:11 PM	#9
Vikinger Captain Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 514 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 6	I think most of the saves will be stored localy on our computers and just a verification code will be transmitted. Nearly the same is it works if you use steam and games you bought through them. __________________

02-24-10, 06:50 PM	#3
JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,803 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	mmmm what happens if and when the DRM is patched out? saves will be local i take it?

02-24-10, 07:43 PM	#6
JScones Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,501 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	I'm 100% certain that SH5 save games will be just as stable as they were in previous versions. Oh, wait.

02-24-10, 07:52 PM	#8
frenema Torpedoman Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 116 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	SH3 loading time was already long enough... Now imagine loading your games from some foreign server online.

02-24-10, 11:28 PM	#14
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	Ok , well lets hope better saves format in SH5 and my better system = no corrupted saves .over and out .

02-25-10, 01:41 AM	#15
Highbury The Old Man Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: 51.557, -0.102 Posts: 1,311 Downloads: 177 Uploads: 0	I don't think DRM/OPS will affect this at all. We will just have a backup of our corrupt save Seriously though, can't know until we try it.