Support the Community - DONT BUY SHV

If 61% of the voting subsim community have voted against buying till DRM is removed then surely the other 39% of the subsim community should support their fellows by at least holding off from purchase for a few weeks so that UBI get the hint ?

So if you buy then you're working against the majority of subsim members.

I accept this is a controversial stance.....but surely it would be nice to help support your community ?

Cheers, UG

[Noren]

Im sure not everybody will agree to this, Im for one is not buying until the DRM is cast aside and the game is something more than just flashy graphics.

Hopefully we can get the idea across to the developers.

[Darkhat]

Even if we don't buy it, the DRM won't probably be removed, I mean, we are not like millions of members at subsim, they won't lose too much money.

On the other side, if we don't buy, maybe there won't be another silent hunter .

And on the third side, the new DRM isn't installing malware or rootkit on your computer like securom, at least it seems so, an I think it should work out fine.

So as what it seems, if everyone buy this, we support the community by making the developers rich and able to make another silent hunter game with whatever we'd like. I dunno but I will buy it.

[Letum]

You won't change anyone's mind with a post like this.
You are more likely just to piss people off.

Me included.

[mookiemookie]

I'm going to buy it on Tuesday and take a picture of me caressing it. I will do this simply to rub it in the faces of people like you who are trying to bully and shame me into not buying it.

I really wish you would all quit with this attitude. Letum's right - you're pissing people off. Me included also.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

I'm going to buy it on Tuesday and take a picture of me caressing it. I will do this simply to rub it in the faces of people like you who are trying to bully and shame me into not buying it.

I really wish you would all quit with this attitude. Letum's right - you're pissing people off. Me included also.

I'm one of the people NOT buying it, and I'm starting to get pissed off by this kind of garbage posting too.

[ReFaN]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

I'm going to buy it on Tuesday and take a picture of me caressing it. I will do this simply to rub it in the faces of people like you who are trying to bully and shame me into not buying it.

I really wish you would all quit with this attitude. Letum's right - you're pissing people off. Me included also.

im going to do more then caress it, going to make a hole an... ehm.

Im going to buy it atleast.

[kapitan_zur_see]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

I'm going to buy it on Tuesday and take a picture of me caressing it. I will do this simply to rub it in the faces of people like you who are trying to bully and shame me into not buying it.

I really wish you would all quit with this attitude. Letum's right - you're pissing people off. Me included also.

Don't forget to include me as well...

I'm not ten years old anymore to let people sort of dictate what I should do for a greater good that is but a matter of perspective

Originally Posted by Highbury

Not that long ago we were all told that it is ok to be against DRM and it is ok to say so, it was however NOT ok to call on the Subsim membership for any form of boycott.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=160798

that message was unstickied because we felt everyone had gotten the message about such talk.


this thread wasnt immediately closed because the members were doing a good job of self modderating such talk so it was allowed to run its course.

i think everyone has said their minds now so thread is closed.


please continue in the DRM thread if you feel the need to continue this

[Méo]

Originally Posted by Letum

You won't change anyone's mind with a post like this.
You are more likely just to piss people off.

Me included.

Agreed.

Stop insulting people who disagree with you or don't share the same level of outrage.

Stop dictating what people should do or not do.

Stop saying what is crap when you never tested it and especially when you never offer a better solution.

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Present some real & objective debate with concrete evidence and you will maybe convince me.

Until there my decision remain unchanged.

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Edit: The Stop isn't an order, this is only a suggestion if you want to gain credibility, at least for me.

[Wolfehunter]

Originally Posted by Darkhat

Even if we don't buy it, the DRM won't probably be removed, I mean, we are not like millions of members at subsim, they won't lose too much money.

On the other side, if we don't buy, maybe there won't be another silent hunter .

And on the third side, the new DRM isn't installing malware or rootkit on your computer like securom, at least it seems so, an I think it should work out fine.

So as what it seems, if everyone buy this, we support the community by making the developers rich and able to make another silent hunter game with whatever we'd like. I dunno but I will buy it.

Dude there are other ways to support Subsim by donating instead of paying for a crappy game. Ubi has lost me in there last crap game there putting out. There not getting my support. If that means this is there last SH game so be it. I didn't ask for this to happen. They didn't listen to there fans. They don't care about us, why should I care about them.

You want to help neal. Support by donating.

Neal though.. you may need to broaden your game selections in the future since ubi's gone wako...

[urfisch]

Originally Posted by Wolfehunter

Dude there are other ways to support Subsim by donating instead of paying for a crappy game. Ubi has lost me in there last crap game there putting out. There not getting my support. If that means this is there last SH game so be it. I didn't ask for this to happen. They didn't listen to there fans. They don't care about us, why should I care about them.

You want to help neal. Support by donating.

Neal though.. you may need to broaden your game selections in the future since ubi's gone wako...

agreed!

[Turbografx]

Originally Posted by Wolfehunter

Dude there are other ways to support Subsim by donating instead of paying for a crappy game. Ubi has lost me in there last crap game there putting out. There not getting my support. If that means this is there last SH game so be it. I didn't ask for this to happen. They didn't listen to there fans. They don't care about us, why should I care about them.

You want to help neal. Support by donating.

Neal though.. you may need to broaden your game selections in the future since ubi's gone wako...

This is how I feel.

Why should the community feel some sort of obsessive loyalty to a franchise which:
1. We pay for in the first place.
2. May no longer meet our desires/expectations.
3. Doesn't care about what this community thinks.

[Méo]

Originally Posted by Turbografx

This is how I feel.

Why should the community feel some sort of obsessive loyalty to a franchise which:
1. We pay for in the first place.
2. May no longer meet our desires/expectations.
3. Doesn't care about what this community thinks.

1. I don't get what you mean, but 50$ these days for a new game is not that bad.

2. Maybe it's because your desires/expectations are too high for a simulation that can sell around 250 000 copies worldwide as opposed to other game that can sell around 9 000 000...

3. I would like to hear what Neal has to say about it.. when the lead designer posted around 800 posts here (he must be reading too, and at least 2 other members of the dev team are members here), when he assisted to the last 2 subsim meeting, when he gave privileged info to this community. Of course they cannot ONLY please us...

Originally Posted by Nisgeis

When people who are buying a game are compared to people who collaborated with the Nazis, you know something's gone wrong.

Choosing to not purchase a $50 consumer product does not make you the moral equivalent of Nelson Mandela.

+1

[j_o_nn_y]

Well I bought all the Silent hunter games straight away when they came out. But I am not going to buy this one until people say it is great, can be modded and even then I might not even buy it because of the DRM issue. If people keep on buying these games, Ubisoft will think its been the right move and DRM is going to be here forever with every game you are going to buy from Ubisoft including future Silent Hunter games. This would incourage other games companies to follow suite and so all your future game purchases will have draconian DRM and you will be slaves to always online play where save games get lost. etc. (This is my personal opinion and not because of the first post).