Walking the tight rope

SteamWake · 12-10-09, 11:36 AM

I will have to give Obama credit where credit is due.

Never before have I witnessed such fine balance while straddeling the fence.

Quote:

OSLO (AP) - President Barack Obama entered the pantheon of Nobel Peace Prize winners Thursday with humble words, acknowledging his own few accomplishments while delivering a robust defense of war and promising to use the prestigious award to "reach for the world that ought to be."

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20091210/D9CGG6680.html

But as always there is an example of "you cant please all of the pepole all of the time".

Quote:

Barack Obama's trip to Oslo to pick up his Nobel peace award is in danger of being overshadowed by a row over the cancellation of a series of events normally attended by the prizewinner.
Norwegians are incensed over what they view as his shabby response to the prize by cutting short his visit.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009...ace-prize-snub

Skybird · 12-10-09, 12:03 PM

Just have read over excerpts in german. It seems he subscribed the audience a big dose of realism for which it was not prepared. German commentators say the applaus was rare compared to earlier laureats, and the atmosphere was sub-optimal. Well, they got what they deserved, i think. If somebody thought he could influence Oabma to become an international Ghandi by stupidly giving him that prize, since today he probably knows better.

frau kaleun · 12-10-09, 12:11 PM

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Norwegians are incensed over what they view as his shabby response to the prize by cutting short his visit.

Well, naturally, he should've stayed longer. It's not like he's got any other demands on his time.

SteamWake · 12-10-09, 12:16 PM

Just keep in mind that at least half the 'audiance' did not feel lilke he deserved the prize in the first place. Of course their reception was mixed.

But yea they dont like their pie in the sky happy place disturbed by reality at all.

12-10-09, 12:26 PM

Does anybody have any idé what he did to deserve this award?

ETR3(SS) · 12-10-09, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Snestorm

Does anybody have any idé what he did to deserve this award?

YES! He had all these great ideas for the world. Based on that logic I should be getting mine in the mail here in a couple of days.

12-10-09, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ETR3(SS)

YES! He had all these great ideas for the world. Based on that logic I should be getting mine in the mail here in a couple of days.

I hope it's not too late because, THIS is the Post Of The Year.

So funny, and yet so true.

Skybird · 12-10-09, 04:36 PM

The speech was brilliant again, and typical for the best of Obama's speeches. However, I separate the rethorical brilliance, and the deed in reality. He is the best rethoirical speaker I have ever witnessed in my life. If only his deeds and political acts would be en par.

I can not escape to be amazed of how different the reactions of commentators in the German press are, no other speech I have seen to trigger so very different, polarised assessements. Some commentators write the audience was cool and at best: polite but distanced, others said the audience spend ovations and some even were moved to tears. Never before have I read so extremely different reactions in the German press about one of Obama's speeches.

I can only guess that those subscribing to a form of naive pacifism that thinks by just wishing well and rejecting force in principal it can change the world, describe Obama's speech and reactions to it as not so good, and those following a more realistic perception of things, liked it better.

12-10-09, 04:54 PM

The danish press came across pretty neutral.:
Here is what usualy happens.
Here is what did happen.
Here is who recieved the award in the past.
And more or less left it at that.

I didn't find the list of past recipiants to be very impressive.

SteamWake · 12-10-09, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

I can not escape to be amazed of how different the reactions of commentators in the German press are, no other speech I have seen to trigger so very different, polarised assessements. Some commentators write the audience was cool and at best: polite but distanced, others said the audience spend ovations and some even were moved to tears. Never before have I read so extremely different reactions in the German press about one of Obama's speeches.

There following the US press lead

One thing is almost certain and that is somewhere between the two lies the truth.

SteamWake · 12-10-09, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snestorm

The danish press came across pretty neutral.:
Here is what usualy happens.
Here is what did happen.
Here is who recieved the award in the past.
And more or less left it at that.

I didn't find the list of past recipiants to be very impressive.

Not since the 50-60's now its just a popularity contest evidently.

Skybird · 12-10-09, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snestorm

I didn't find the list of past recipiants to be very impressive.

Maybe the prize should be changed: to being given to the best Science Fiction author.

12-10-09, 05:17 PM

The reason behind why the Norwegians gave him the prize and didn't want Obama to leave so soon and got angry when he did...well let's just say the people in Norway, Sweden and Denmark really like Obama.

And to be precise...

...it's the guys who like him.

Ewwww!

12-10-09, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

The reason behind why the Norwegians gave him the prize and didn't want Obama to leave so soon and got angry when he did...well let's just say the people in Norway, Sweden and Denmark really like Obama.

And to be precise...

...it's the guys who like him.

Ewwww!

This one doesn't. And he doesn't like you either.

12-10-09, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snestorm

And he doesn't like you either.

*phew*

It's also worth remembering that christianity, the guys in long robes who fancy little kids, came to Finland from Sweden.

This was the original Finnish response to this Swedish religion.

12-10-09, 12:03 PM	#2
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Just have read over excerpts in german. It seems he subscribed the audience a big dose of realism for which it was not prepared. German commentators say the applaus was rare compared to earlier laureats, and the atmosphere was sub-optimal. Well, they got what they deserved, i think. If somebody thought he could influence Oabma to become an international Ghandi by stupidly giving him that prize, since today he probably knows better. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

12-10-09, 12:16 PM	#4
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Just keep in mind that at least half the 'audiance' did not feel lilke he deserved the prize in the first place. Of course their reception was mixed. But yea they dont like their pie in the sky happy place disturbed by reality at all. __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

12-10-09, 04:36 PM	#8
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	The speech was brilliant again, and typical for the best of Obama's speeches. However, I separate the rethorical brilliance, and the deed in reality. He is the best rethoirical speaker I have ever witnessed in my life. If only his deeds and political acts would be en par. I can not escape to be amazed of how different the reactions of commentators in the German press are, no other speech I have seen to trigger so very different, polarised assessements. Some commentators write the audience was cool and at best: polite but distanced, others said the audience spend ovations and some even were moved to tears. Never before have I read so extremely different reactions in the German press about one of Obama's speeches. I can only guess that those subscribing to a form of naive pacifism that thinks by just wishing well and rejecting force in principal it can change the world, describe Obama's speech and reactions to it as not so good, and those following a more realistic perception of things, liked it better. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

12-10-09, 12:26 PM	#5
Snestorm Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Does anybody have any idé what he did to deserve this award?

12-10-09, 04:54 PM	#9
Snestorm Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	The danish press came across pretty neutral.: Here is what usualy happens. Here is what did happen. Here is who recieved the award in the past. And more or less left it at that. I didn't find the list of past recipiants to be very impressive.

12-10-09, 05:17 PM	#13
OneToughHerring Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	The reason behind why the Norwegians gave him the prize and didn't want Obama to leave so soon and got angry when he did...well let's just say the people in Norway, Sweden and Denmark really like Obama. And to be precise... ...it's the guys who like him. Ewwww!