Just had the best patrol ever!

maillemaker · 02-08-10, 02:05 AM

I just had the best patrol ever!

I was north of England, when I got a report of a convoy in AN15. I moved to intercept. It was night, and the weather was crappy. Rain, and low visibility.

I made sonar contact at 5:40am on September 20, 1940. Put up the scope, and it was flat seas and perfect visibility.

2 large cargo ships and 2 ore carriers looked like the prime targets.

The convoy was lead by a destroyer. At the last minute, I decided to hit the destroyer first. I did. It did not sink, but came to a stop. I started shooting merchant ships.

Then another destroyer came along. I got him to chase me, and sent a magnetic under his chin and blew him sky high. Went back to shooting merchants. Then another destroyer came. I nailed it with a magnetic also. There was only one more escort, so I got it to chase me, and put another magnetic under his chin. Now all the escorts were gone, and none of the merchant ships had guns!!!!!

I surfaced and began to work my way through the convoy, one ship at a time, chewing their waterlines with our 88. There were two small freighters that had machine guns on them. They hit us a few times but I sank them.

In the end, 2 passenger/cargo ships were all that remained, and one was badly damaged. I expended every piece of ammunition on the boat, including the anti-aircraft. 15 ships sunk, including 4 destroyers. 66,491 tons.

Got awarded the Knight's Cross with Oak Leaves.

I will be adding this to my ongoing story in more dramatic form soon.

Steve

Rapt0r56 · 02-08-10, 02:13 AM

Nice one!
There isn't any need to say: BE MORE AGRESSIVE!!!

brett25 · 02-08-10, 03:30 AM

nice work there, i can rarely seem to hit a destroyer at 180 degrees to my boat, sometimes i get em broadside but rarely at their prow!

maillemaker · 02-08-10, 09:12 AM

Hi Brett:

I have found that in SHIII your best bet is to attack escorts rather than try and evade them. You can evade them if you have a 100% undamaged sub so you can go to 210 or so meters depth (if you have the depth), and if you have rough seas. Otherwise, you are going to take a pounding that just wears you down until you are finished.

When a convoy is steaming unmolested, they usually drive in a straight line, including the escorts. So hitting the first escort is easy.

After that, you need to get their attention so that they will chase you. Put up your scope (pull it down if they start shooting at it though!). Ping away on your depth finder. Run at flank speed. Suspend silent running. Then turn to point your stern EXACTLY at them. When you look at the destroyer through your periscope it should be lined up exactly on 180 degrees.

Identify the class of warship in your ship identification manual. Then set your torpedo to run 1m deeper than their keel depth. Set for magnetic pistol. Open your outer door and be ready to fire. When they get to around 600m range, fire your torpedo. Assuming you don't have a premature detonation from a faulty magnetic pistol (and they almost premature at such short ranges), you will blow the bottom out of them.

If you have enough time to set it up, you can also run this scenaior "in reverse", by driving your sub at "back emergency" and pointing your BOW directly at an oncoming destroyer, and getting them to drive in exactly on 000.

If the escort chasing you is zig-zagging, when they close to 200m drop a noise maker. As the escort goes over the noise maker, they will reverse engines and "hover" over the noisemaker for as long as it is active. That is your chance to bag them.

Note that this type of game play is "gaming" the system and taking advantage of the way escorts and such work in the game. But if you want to see May 1945, it works!

Steve

Schroeder · 02-08-10, 09:49 AM

Well but it only does work if you exploit some weaknesses of the game.
The magnetic pistols did never work properly in RL AFAIK, and going reverse while being submerged should be the nightmare of your LI.

brett25 · 02-08-10, 02:42 PM

haha, that's good info thanks maillemaker, i may try that soon for fun. the style of play im used to is to hit the convoys from as far out as i can and make never more than 2knots, 3 very occasionally (to set up for another shot), the destroyers rarely detect me that way. I can even get inside a convoy pretty well by creeping along at 1 to 2 knots as they come toward me head on. the main thing is that with realistic load times, i find i dont have the torpedos to waste on the destroyers.

maillemaker · 02-08-10, 03:31 PM

I use realistic load times. I think I'm at 86% realism? The only things I don't have turned off is the auto TDC and weapon's officer ID of ships and godeye mode on the map.

The way I see it, if you take out the escorts, you can take your time on the rest of the convoy.

Jimbuna · 02-08-10, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rapt0r

Nice one!
There isn't any need to say: BE MORE AGRESSIVE!!!

Cheeky begga!!

BE MORE AGGRESSIVE!!

ryanglavin · 02-08-10, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maillemaker

Then set your torpedo to run 1m deeper than their keel depth. Set for magnetic pistol.

I find it easier to set 0.5 M below keel, because if there even is the slightest wave, 1.0 meters can completely screw up. 0.5 is like a safe zone, IMO.

maillemaker · 02-08-10, 09:06 PM

I'm always afraid to go to shallow as I've had them go "PLONK" against the hull and not go off because of the high angle.

Steve

02-08-10, 02:05 AM	#1
maillemaker Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,639 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	Just had the best patrol ever! I just had the best patrol ever! I was north of England, when I got a report of a convoy in AN15. I moved to intercept. It was night, and the weather was crappy. Rain, and low visibility. I made sonar contact at 5:40am on September 20, 1940. Put up the scope, and it was flat seas and perfect visibility. 2 large cargo ships and 2 ore carriers looked like the prime targets. The convoy was lead by a destroyer. At the last minute, I decided to hit the destroyer first. I did. It did not sink, but came to a stop. I started shooting merchant ships. Then another destroyer came along. I got him to chase me, and sent a magnetic under his chin and blew him sky high. Went back to shooting merchants. Then another destroyer came. I nailed it with a magnetic also. There was only one more escort, so I got it to chase me, and put another magnetic under his chin. Now all the escorts were gone, and none of the merchant ships had guns!!!!! I surfaced and began to work my way through the convoy, one ship at a time, chewing their waterlines with our 88. There were two small freighters that had machine guns on them. They hit us a few times but I sank them. In the end, 2 passenger/cargo ships were all that remained, and one was badly damaged. I expended every piece of ammunition on the boat, including the anti-aircraft. 15 ships sunk, including 4 destroyers. 66,491 tons. Got awarded the Knight's Cross with Oak Leaves. I will be adding this to my ongoing story in more dramatic form soon. Steve

02-08-10, 02:13 AM	#2
Rapt0r56 Commodore Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Düsseldorf, North Rhine-Westphalia — Germany Posts: 601 Downloads: 391 Uploads: 0	Nice one! There isn't any need to say: BE MORE AGRESSIVE!!! __________________ “The sea is everything. It covers seven tenths of the terrestrial globe. Its breath is pure and healthy. It is an immense desert, where man is never lonely, for he feels life stirring on all sides. The sea is only the embodiment of a supernatural and wonderful existence. It is nothing but love and emotion; it is the Living Infinite. ” ― Jules Verne, Twenty Thousand Leagues Under The Sea My modifications for Ubisoft's SHIII can currently be found in Maik's comprehensive archives found via the Silent Hunter 3 Tab on his website: https://maikhaas.synology.me/joomla/index.php?lang=de/

02-08-10, 03:30 AM	#3
brett25 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Oakland CA, USA Posts: 737 Downloads: 570 Uploads: 0	nice work there, i can rarely seem to hit a destroyer at 180 degrees to my boat, sometimes i get em broadside but rarely at their prow! __________________ http://shmf.larsbundgaard.dk/index.p...1tn5&board=7.0

02-08-10, 09:49 AM	#5
Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	Well but it only does work if you exploit some weaknesses of the game. The magnetic pistols did never work properly in RL AFAIK, and going reverse while being submerged should be the nightmare of your LI. __________________ Putting Germ back into Germany.

02-08-10, 02:42 PM	#6
brett25 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Oakland CA, USA Posts: 737 Downloads: 570 Uploads: 0	haha, that's good info thanks maillemaker, i may try that soon for fun. the style of play im used to is to hit the convoys from as far out as i can and make never more than 2knots, 3 very occasionally (to set up for another shot), the destroyers rarely detect me that way. I can even get inside a convoy pretty well by creeping along at 1 to 2 knots as they come toward me head on. the main thing is that with realistic load times, i find i dont have the torpedos to waste on the destroyers. __________________ http://shmf.larsbundgaard.dk/index.p...1tn5&board=7.0

02-08-10, 09:12 AM	#4
maillemaker Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,639 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	Hi Brett: I have found that in SHIII your best bet is to attack escorts rather than try and evade them. You can evade them if you have a 100% undamaged sub so you can go to 210 or so meters depth (if you have the depth), and if you have rough seas. Otherwise, you are going to take a pounding that just wears you down until you are finished. When a convoy is steaming unmolested, they usually drive in a straight line, including the escorts. So hitting the first escort is easy. After that, you need to get their attention so that they will chase you. Put up your scope (pull it down if they start shooting at it though!). Ping away on your depth finder. Run at flank speed. Suspend silent running. Then turn to point your stern EXACTLY at them. When you look at the destroyer through your periscope it should be lined up exactly on 180 degrees. Identify the class of warship in your ship identification manual. Then set your torpedo to run 1m deeper than their keel depth. Set for magnetic pistol. Open your outer door and be ready to fire. When they get to around 600m range, fire your torpedo. Assuming you don't have a premature detonation from a faulty magnetic pistol (and they almost premature at such short ranges), you will blow the bottom out of them. If you have enough time to set it up, you can also run this scenaior "in reverse", by driving your sub at "back emergency" and pointing your BOW directly at an oncoming destroyer, and getting them to drive in exactly on 000. If the escort chasing you is zig-zagging, when they close to 200m drop a noise maker. As the escort goes over the noise maker, they will reverse engines and "hover" over the noisemaker for as long as it is active. That is your chance to bag them. Note that this type of game play is "gaming" the system and taking advantage of the way escorts and such work in the game. But if you want to see May 1945, it works! Steve

02-08-10, 03:31 PM	#7
maillemaker Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,639 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	I use realistic load times. I think I'm at 86% realism? The only things I don't have turned off is the auto TDC and weapon's officer ID of ships and godeye mode on the map. The way I see it, if you take out the escorts, you can take your time on the rest of the convoy.

02-08-10, 09:06 PM	#10
maillemaker Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,639 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	I'm always afraid to go to shallow as I've had them go "PLONK" against the hull and not go off because of the high angle. Steve