Alimony

Onkel Neal · 11-03-09, 09:28 AM

Is there anything crazier than alimony in this day and time? I thought that women had equal rights, etc.

What's the status of alimony, are there still state that have this? It's typically for men aying woemn, right? And how do they justify it? Anyone paying this kind of legal extortion?

Anyone receiving it?

antikristuseke · 11-03-09, 09:37 AM

I think when my parents got divorced my father payed alimony, though he was not legally forced to. Not anymore though since me and my siblings are all over 18.

Edit: wait, no, that was child support.

ETR3(SS) · 11-03-09, 09:44 AM

Look no farther than the State of Washington. When I was stationed there, and still living there until the middle of last year, the worst thing you could be in that state was be a man. Routinely I would hear "don't get married or divorced in this state!" form fellow service members and civilians living in the area. It wasn't unusual for a couple with children that were getting divorced for the women to "automatically" get awarded custody and alimony. If there's anybody from Western Washington on the forums they should be able to back up what I've said.

And on the subject of "equality", I must say that it has a very tarnished image in my eyes. Personally I do not approve of women in the military based on the fact that they are not held to the same standards as their male counterparts. It is my (probably biased) opinion that "equal pay for equal work" does not exist, and that our country places too much time into being PC than looking at the qualifications of employees or prospective employees. Case in point the New Haven firefighters.

FIREWALL · 11-03-09, 10:38 AM

In California your EX gets half, her lawyer gets half and, you get the shaft.

Zachstar · 11-03-09, 11:31 AM

This is one of the reasons I will likely never get wed. Sadly it has almost become a buisness to wed someone due to their wealth and get a convinent divorce. And I don't mean just women. Men and even same sex people do it.

AVGWarhawk · 11-03-09, 12:52 PM

My sister just got divorced in the great state of TX. She gets alimony and child support. Child support is not enough IMO. Kids are expensive and you know that aspect of it Neal. Homes and the necessities are expensive also. So yes, alimony is something that I can see as not crasy. At least until the are all over 18. At that point all alimony and support should stop. Over the years her husband had pissed away hundreds of thousand of dollars that wase hers. She had a million dollar home in Houston TX. This a-hole did nothing for years. Had nervous breakdowns all the time. His resume shows he was an 'entrepenuer'. That is a nice way of saying he was a slouch. Now he asked for the divorce and is busy dating an illegals.

IMO, alimony is fine to a point and should stop after the children reach 18 years of age. After all, child support stops at that age.

ETR3(SS) · 11-03-09, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

My sister just got divorced in the great state of TX. She gets alimony and child support. Child support is not enough IMO. Kids are expensive and you know that aspect of it Neal. Homes and the necessities are expensive also. So yes, alimony is something that I can see as not crasy. At least until the are all over 18. At that point all alimony and support should stop. Over the years her husband had pissed away hundreds of thousand of dollars that wase hers. She had a million dollar home in Houston TX. This a-hole did nothing for years. Had nervous breakdowns all the time. His resume shows he was an 'entrepenuer'. That is a nice way of saying he was a slouch. Now he asked for the divorce and is busy dating an illegals.

IMO, alimony is fine to a point and should stop after the children reach 18 years of age. After all, child support stops at that age.

Alimony has nothing to do with children at all. That is what child support is there for. If you believe that child support does not cover it anymore, than child support rates should go up. Awarding alimony to the wife doesn't solve the problem as legally that money is for her and not the children.

Alimony should be abolished in this country as we are an "equal opportunity" nation. I would refuse (in a legal manner of course) to pay alimony to an ex-wife because she doesn't want to go out and get a job. THAT is straight sexism.

Onkel Neal · 11-03-09, 01:59 PM

We certainly disagree here. Alimony is an antiquated concept. Today any woman should be required to support themselves, if they get a divorce. Just like men.

And child support is not far behind. I agree both parents should provide support for the children, but until age 15, children are not that expensive. In Texas, CS for one child is 20% of your income. And keep in mind, that 20% is supposed to be the non-custodial parent's portion. So, in effect, the child costs 20% from the mother too? Ha, that's one expensive kid!

And the arguement that CS should go toward providing a room and utilities for child at the mom's dwelling...so what happens when the child stays with the father? The child sleeps on the porch? No, the father has to provide a room, bed, clothes, utilities, food, entertainment for the child too, as well as hand over 20% of his income to his ex-wife, who is free to spend it any way she wishes. I'm all for supporting one's children, but the current system is wrong and biased (mothers get custody automatically). A married father gets full decision power over how much money to spend on his kids, the divorced father is expected to throw lots of money to his ex, in hopes the child will be provided for.

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

My sister just got divorced in the great state of TX. She gets alimony and child support. Child support is not enough IMO. Kids are expensive and you know that aspect of it Neal. Homes and the necessities are expensive also. So yes, alimony is something that I can see as not crasy. At least until the are all over 18. At that point all alimony and support should stop. Over the years her husband had pissed away hundreds of thousand of dollars that wase hers. She had a million dollar home in Houston TX. This a-hole did nothing for years. Had nervous breakdowns all the time. His resume shows he was an 'entrepenuer'. That is a nice way of saying he was a slouch. Now he asked for the divorce and is busy dating an illegals.

IMO, alimony is fine to a point and should stop after the children reach 18 years of age. After all, child support stops at that age.

AVGWarhawk · 11-03-09, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Zachstar

This is one of the reasons I will likely never get wed. Sadly it has almost become a buisness to wed someone due to their wealth and get a convinent divorce. And I don't mean just women. Men and even same sex people do it.

Pre-nuptuals brother

Jimbuna · 11-03-09, 01:14 PM

My friend recently got divorced from his wife. He told me, "Marriage is like a prison."

I thought to myself, "That’s not true. At least in prison you get to have anal sex."

Zachstar · 11-03-09, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Pre-nuptuals brother

Women and men are taught that even mentioning a pre-nup is bad bad bad. Some would even accuse you of being a sexist over it.

No if I get in a relationship. Let it be free of BS.

11-03-09, 09:28 AM	#1
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ETR3(SS) Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between test depth and periscope depth Posts: 3,021 Downloads: 175 Uploads: 16	Look no farther than the State of Washington. When I was stationed there, and still living there until the middle of last year, the worst thing you could be in that state was be a man. Routinely I would hear "don't get married or divorced in this state!" form fellow service members and civilians living in the area. It wasn't unusual for a couple with children that were getting divorced for the women to "automatically" get awarded custody and alimony. If there's anybody from Western Washington on the forums they should be able to back up what I've said. And on the subject of "equality", I must say that it has a very tarnished image in my eyes. Personally I do not approve of women in the military based on the fact that they are not held to the same standards as their male counterparts. It is my (probably biased) opinion that "equal pay for equal work" does not exist, and that our country places too much time into being PC than looking at the qualifications of employees or prospective employees. Case in point the New Haven firefighters. __________________ USS Kentucky SSBN 737 (G) Comms Div 2003-2006 Qualified 19 November 03 Yes I was really on a submarine.

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FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	In California your EX gets half, her lawyer gets half and, you get the shaft. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

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Zachstar Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Shreveport, Louisiana Posts: 1,956 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	This is one of the reasons I will likely never get wed. Sadly it has almost become a buisness to wed someone due to their wealth and get a convinent divorce. And I don't mean just women. Men and even same sex people do it. __________________

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AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,253 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	My sister just got divorced in the great state of TX. She gets alimony and child support. Child support is not enough IMO. Kids are expensive and you know that aspect of it Neal. Homes and the necessities are expensive also. So yes, alimony is something that I can see as not crasy. At least until the are all over 18. At that point all alimony and support should stop. Over the years her husband had pissed away hundreds of thousand of dollars that wase hers. She had a million dollar home in Houston TX. This a-hole did nothing for years. Had nervous breakdowns all the time. His resume shows he was an 'entrepenuer'. That is a nice way of saying he was a slouch. Now he asked for the divorce and is busy dating an illegals. IMO, alimony is fine to a point and should stop after the children reach 18 years of age. After all, child support stops at that age. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

11-03-09, 09:37 AM	#2
antikristuseke Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Estland Posts: 4,330 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	I think when my parents got divorced my father payed alimony, though he was not legally forced to. Not anymore though since me and my siblings are all over 18. Edit: wait, no, that was child support.

11-03-09, 01:14 PM	#10
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,473 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	My friend recently got divorced from his wife. He told me, "Marriage is like a prison." I thought to myself, "That’s not true. At least in prison you get to have anal sex." __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!