Animals using tools

joegrundman · 01-22-09, 08:56 PM

check out some of these. Especially the chimps attacking the fake leopard. Amazing!

http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2...imaltools.html

Letum · 01-22-09, 09:07 PM

Pfft! That's nothing.
I'm an animal and I can use much better tools.

joegrundman · 01-22-09, 09:09 PM

good for you, i suppose

Letum · 01-22-09, 09:10 PM

Damm right!

Those mole rats have got NOTHING on me and I will say it to their face any day.

nikimcbee · 01-22-09, 09:14 PM

There was a science tv show talking about the difference between a human brain and a chimp brain. It was amazing how well the chimp could remember things and do math!

(People flunked the same test, or I should say, did not score as highly).

So why are we running the world and chimps aren't. Chimps don't share/ pass on knowledge.

i wish I could remember the name of the show, it might have been Nova.

SUBMAN1 · 01-22-09, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Letum

Pfft! That's nothing.
I'm an animal and I can use much better tools.

Plenty of proof here in this forum, so I'd have to agree.

:p

-S

Stealth Hunter · 01-22-09, 11:19 PM

I wonder, with their current course of evolution taken into account, what chimps will be like in ten thousand years...:hmm:

Letum · 01-22-09, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

I wonder, with their current course of evolution taken into account, what chimps will be like in ten thousand years...:hmm:

Don't assume that they will evolve to be more intelligent.
If their environment does not change, they won't change at all. If they can manage to
reproduce with a smaller brain, they will.

Even if they did start to become more intelligent, it would take closer to 10 million
years, rather than 10 thousand for they to get up to our level.

joegrundman · 01-22-09, 11:56 PM

I reckon they'll be able to spam internet forums with junkmail within a decade:p

I think more interesting is that the use of clubs and stones really gives a glimpse of what the early human ancestors might have been like at the very beginning of the tool using era

Edited to account for Uslcl's splendid observation!

UnderseaLcpl · 01-23-09, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by joegrundman

I think more interesting is that the use of clubs and stones really gives a glimpse of what the bearly human ancestors might have been like at the very beginning of the tool using era

I agree, that would be beary interesting.

Onkel Neal · 01-23-09, 01:15 AM

You shoulda seen me last week replacing the O2 sensor on my truck...way down behind the engine. I was going ape.

breadcatcher101 · 01-23-09, 01:21 AM

I once saw a great blue heron using a feather to attract fish. At first I thought it had shed and floated at random but as the breeze slowly keep it drifting away he would pick it up and put it back into position. He caught 5 in this way before getting full and flying off. I kept the feather and made a fly out of it, keeping it's record going.

Stealth Hunter · 01-23-09, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Letum

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

I wonder, with their current course of evolution taken into account, what chimps will be like in ten thousand years...:hmm:

Don't assume that they will evolve to be more intelligent. If their environment does not change, they won't change at all. If they can manage to
reproduce with a smaller brain, they will.

Which is precisely why I said . . . with their current course of evolution taken into account . . .

Quote:

Originally Posted by Letum

Even if they did start to become more intelligent, it would take closer to 10 million
years, rather than 10 thousand for they to get up to our level.

I don't expect them to arise to our level of intelligence in just ten thousand years. Still, it would be a curious thing to see how much they would change in the said amount of time.

Quillan · 01-23-09, 11:19 AM

The thread title made me think of this:

August · 01-23-09, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Letum

Damm right!

Those mole rats have got NOTHING on me and I will say it to their face any day.

Don't be a mole hateah...

01-22-09, 08:56 PM	#1
joegrundman Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,689 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	Animals using tools check out some of these. Especially the chimps attacking the fake leopard. Amazing! http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2...imaltools.html __________________ "Enemy submarines are to be called U-Boats. The term submarine is to be reserved for Allied under water vessels. U-Boats are those dastardly villains who sink our ships, while submarines are those gallant and noble craft which sink theirs." Winston Churchill

01-22-09, 09:07 PM	#2
Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Pfft! That's nothing. I'm an animal and I can use much better tools. __________________

01-22-09, 09:09 PM	#3
joegrundman Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,689 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	good for you, i suppose __________________ "Enemy submarines are to be called U-Boats. The term submarine is to be reserved for Allied under water vessels. U-Boats are those dastardly villains who sink our ships, while submarines are those gallant and noble craft which sink theirs." Winston Churchill

01-22-09, 09:10 PM	#4
Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Damm right! Those mole rats have got NOTHING on me and I will say it to their face any day. __________________

01-22-09, 09:14 PM	#5
nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,952 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	There was a science tv show talking about the difference between a human brain and a chimp brain. It was amazing how well the chimp could remember things and do math! (People flunked the same test, or I should say, did not score as highly). So why are we running the world and chimps aren't. Chimps don't share/ pass on knowledge. i wish I could remember the name of the show, it might have been Nova. __________________

01-22-09, 11:19 PM	#7
Stealth Hunter Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Y'ha-Nthlei Posts: 4,262 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	I wonder, with their current course of evolution taken into account, what chimps will be like in ten thousand years...:hmm:

01-22-09, 11:56 PM	#9
joegrundman Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,689 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	I reckon they'll be able to spam internet forums with junkmail within a decade:p I think more interesting is that the use of clubs and stones really gives a glimpse of what the early human ancestors might have been like at the very beginning of the tool using era Edited to account for Uslcl's splendid observation! __________________ "Enemy submarines are to be called U-Boats. The term submarine is to be reserved for Allied under water vessels. U-Boats are those dastardly villains who sink our ships, while submarines are those gallant and noble craft which sink theirs." Winston Churchill Last edited by joegrundman; 01-23-09 at 12:11 AM.

01-23-09, 01:15 AM	#11
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,383 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	You shoulda seen me last week replacing the O2 sensor on my truck...way down behind the engine. I was going ape. __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

01-23-09, 01:21 AM	#12
breadcatcher101 Captain Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Southeastern USA Posts: 546 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I once saw a great blue heron using a feather to attract fish. At first I thought it had shed and floated at random but as the breeze slowly keep it drifting away he would pick it up and put it back into position. He caught 5 in this way before getting full and flying off. I kept the feather and made a fly out of it, keeping it's record going.

01-23-09, 11:19 AM	#14
Quillan Samurai Navy Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 579 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	The thread title made me think of this: __________________ We, the unwilling, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, for so long, with so little, that we are now qualified to do anything with nothing.